List of Youtube Leathercraft channels

[TonyRV2]

2 hours ago, JLSleather said:

Hey, guys... I'm SO excited about this new opportunity I just had to make this video to 'share it' with y'all ...

How'sat go about 'protesting" too much?

 

Advertise:

verb (used with object), ad·ver·tised, ad·ver·tis·ing.

to announce or praise (a product, service, etc.) in some public medium of communication in order to induce people to buy or use it:to advertise a new brand of toothpaste.

to give information to the public about; announce publicly in a newspaper, on radio or television, etc.:to advertise a reward.

 

Gee....thanks for point that out to all of us.  Now we all care.  lmao

[mikesc]

When I scroll down the thread ( any thread here ), the only ads I see are the ones ( 3 ) in your "sig", each time that you post Jeff 5 ads , ( 3 per sig, 5 posts so far ) ..aren't "referrals"..Those are ads..I personally have little to no problem with them* :) ..I'm an ex ad man ( nearly 10 years freelance copywriter and creative ad artist, videos, TV, press, the works )..But you might want to think about you being the pot calling other people's kettles black..

I'm not all all religious ( atheist ), don't know if you are .. but Matthew, chapter 7, verses 1 to 5. would seem kind of appropriate.

I personally ( and have said so here ) think that there are far too many copy cat videos out there..but seriously, if videos( which on youtube will always have ads** ) bother you that much..just don't look ..some people here like to watch them.Why insist on raining on their parade each time the subject comes up.

**no script is your friend..watch youtube with no ads.

I don't see the ads here ..only the ones in "sigs"..I wouldn't be buying from any of the advertisers anyway, so it saves on Johanna'a bandwidth, but..When I have read some of the help that some of the advertisers ( including Toledo ) have given over the years here, I'd "refer" members from the USA to them, if they ask..I have done so, like I "refer" people to College sewing, or to arbalet12..But ads for businesses other than the posters own site in sigs..that is very "in your face"..*personally feels like I'm being spammed a little...Visually it is jarring, and irrelevant to the subject of most ( if not all threads )..In particular I can't block your "sig with ads in" without blocking you..and you frequently post interesting comments..so I don't want to block you..
My 2cts :)

ps..Never have understood why some forum software allows one to "block" people..how is anyone going to understand replies if they "block" certain posters..seems a very childish option, fingers in ears "I can't hear you" type of thing..

Not Johanna's fault, the software has it built in..I don't know if it can be disabled easily..I'll have to test a local copy of the software to see.

Just realised, I could block the images in the sig without blocking the poster, I'll have to write a script to do so and add it into firefox or my hosts file ( it isn't called that on linux, but that is what most people might know it as ) ..Opera ( now Vivaldi ) will allow one to block images with just a click, but my FF already has some of my scripts running..Or..People could just quit putting images of any kind, ads or otherwise, in their sigs, and give everyone's ,( including the non programmers ), eyes a rest.

Edited September 10, 2019 by mikesc

[JLSleather]

Yikes, am I replying here again?@!

I did start to look through those videos -- certainly WILLING to find the one NOT selling something.  After the first 10 or so, I hadn't found any, so I quit looking.  One I ran into accidentally since it came up after one of these (not on the list) actually goes so far as to say "I got this idea from this OTHER guys video, so here's something you can by from my site!" ROFL Pudgy little soft boy, so no surprise there.

Makes no difference to me HOW many ads exist.. don't matter to me if they're posted HERE (not my site = not my problem).  I simply said... if you're going to have ADS, then why the refusal to CALL it that?

• Hahn's Atelier said I can download something for free for 5 days (don't know what dates he was referring to) then after that I could buy on etsy.
• Don Gonzalez (whose work is nice, and who does most things the same way I do) will "teach" me a class.  For $125 (online).
• Paul Zalesak showed me his new CNC lathe, including the coolant system.  And offered to sell me some swivel knife blades he makes.
• Makesupply wanted to wish me well for the new year.  And give me a link where I can buy "kits" of precut parts with thread included.
• And "stock n barrel".. well - I really should just leave THAT one alone   That certainly was as much as I could take.

So I'm givin them [yet another] mention.  Total Jeff investment required = 0.  

Those who have it figured out are fine.  The only ones "sucked in" are the new, or those who don't know any better.  They're the only ones I'm talking to anyway - not looking for any "partners".  My only regard is that those who don't already know better might think that some bad leather and cheap parlor tricks is the way leather is SUPPOSED to go  

 

As for the "signature".. those ARE referrals. I get asked fairly frequently ON THIS SITE where to get a "maker mark" made, or what kind of sewing machine..., or where to have dies made.  Since I'm not the sewing machine guy (I get by, and that's about all) best advice I can give them is "call Bob".  And Alex (AM Leathercraft) is the one I trusted to make MY logo stamps and he proved I was right to do so.  And Sandy makes nice, accurate, sturdy clicker dies.  Are they the ONLY ones - hardly.  But they are quite good at what they do.  But I don't get anything from those referrals other than the knowledge that I sent people who were interested to people who were capable.  Im not selling anything there. But if I WAS selling something I would SAY that.  

I turned down the signature a bit.  If any or all of those suppliers would prefer to be removed, just a message away - no problem.

 

Edited September 10, 2019 by JLSleather
sig

[mason1800]

1 hour ago, JLSleather said:

Yikes, am I replying here again?@!

I did start to look through those videos -- certainly WILLING to find the one NOT selling something.  After the first 10 or so, I hadn't found any, so I quit looking.  One I ran into accidentally since it came up after one of these (not on the list) actually goes so far as to say "I got this idea from this OTHER guys video, so here's something you can by from my site!" ROFL Pudgy little soft boy, so no surprise there.

Makes no difference to me HOW many ads exist.. don't matter to me if they're posted HERE (not my site = not my problem).  I simply said... if you're going to have ADS, then why the refusal to CALL it that?

• Hahn's Atelier said I can download something for free for 5 days (don't know what dates he was referring to) then after that I could buy on etsy.
• Don Gonzalez (whose work is nice, and who does most things the same way I do) will "teach" me a class.  For $125 (online).
• Paul Zalesak showed me his new CNC lathe, including the coolant system.  And offered to sell me some swivel knife blades he makes.
• Makesupply wanted to wish me well for the new year.  And give me a link where I can buy "kits" of precut parts with thread included.
• And "stock n barrel".. well - I really should just leave THAT one alone   That certainly was as much as I could take.

So I'm givin them [yet another] mention.  Total Jeff investment required = 0.  

Those who have it figured out are fine.  The only ones "sucked in" are the new, or those who don't know any better.  They're the only ones I'm talking to anyway - not looking for any "partners".  My only regard is that those who don't already know better might think that some bad leather and cheap parlor tricks is the way leather is SUPPOSED to go  

 

As for the "signature".. those ARE referrals. I get asked fairly frequently ON THIS SITE where to get a "maker mark" made, or what kind of sewing machine..., or where to have dies made.  Since I'm not the sewing machine guy (I get by, and that's about all) best advice I can give them is "call Bob".  And Alex (AM Leathercraft) is the one I trusted to make MY logo stamps and he proved I was right to do so.  And Sandy makes nice, accurate, sturdy clicker dies.  Are they the ONLY ones - hardly.  But they are quite good at what they do.  But I don't get anything from those referrals other than the knowledge that I sent people who were interested to people who were capable.  Im not selling anything there. But if I WAS selling something I would SAY that.  

I turned down the signature a bit.  If any or all of those suppliers would prefer to be removed, just a message away - no problem.

 

@JLSleather And where can I find Sandy's info??? Im looking to buy some nice metal clicker dies.  If you dont mind. Oh and thanks for the Field notes /Passport  cover a few years back... lol 

[mikesc]

Jeff.."a referral" is when you post ( using words , not images ) in reply to someone who posts saying they are looking for "X" .."Hey this guy does a pretty good X"..I bought one and it I recommend them..

An image ( 3 of them) in a "sig", so that every post (even one about "sewing thread" etc ) is a different beast, it is an in your face ad..( like sign on your lawn, that you take with you when you go to visit ) even if you are getting nothing in return..It is like the guy in the bar who no matter what the subject under discussion, always has to tell you who he votes for..What kinda car he drives, What church, mosque, synagogue..."whatever" he goes ( or does not go ) to..Or worse still..each time he speaks, he holds up 3 banners or signboards at the end when he is done speaking."Eat at Joe's" , "Drive Ford", "Wear Levi's".. ;)

There's ( IMO ) worse..I've seen sig images here ( not ads ) that are bigger than most folks post pictures of machines or what they make*..Makes you ( well me at least ) wonder what "lack" they are trying to compensate for ( like "I've got a big car / gun / sig.... so I also have a big....really" * ) makes 'em need to be noticed.

* Girls rarely do this, seems to be a "guy thing"..for some guys.

ps..I've not seen any of the videos linked to..But they must have ads, they are on youtube....I block youtube, Google whatever, and all other tracking from wherever it is watching when I'm here..or elsewhere..Gets you cleaner search results if you ever use Google , if you block it ( including G analytics ) everywhere..

* For people who are on metered bandwidth deals ( like many in the USA, especially on cell phone deals ) images in "sigs" take up far more bandwidth ( cost them more to see, and they can't block them ) than reading text..a 10kb image is about equivalent in data transfer ( bandwidth that they pay for ) to an entire page of close written text..Plus..it slows their page loading down if they are not on 4G or 5G...even if they are surfing with normal images blocked.

Btw..if it seems like I'm getting at you Jeff, nope :) Been on the "web" since before BBS days , before usenet, compuserve groups etc..IME ( "greybeard" ) ..unnecessary images ( avatars and images in sigs etc ) are one of those things that I try to avoid..IMO they don't add anything to fora..relevant images certainly do..but avatars and images in sigs..they are just unnecessary "noise".

Edited September 10, 2019 by mikesc
typo, clarity

[JLSleather]

7 minutes ago, mason1800 said:

@JLSleather And where can I find Sandy's info??? Im looking to buy some nice metal clicker dies.  If you dont mind. Oh and thanks for the Field notes /Passport  cover a few years back... lol 

Welcome - no charge  And you can get to Sandy by clicking the BLUE (earth) pic under my posts.  Take ya right to her site. Nice gal, good work. 

3 minutes ago, mikesc said:

Jeff.."a referral" is when you post ( using words , not images ) in reply to someone who posts saying they are looking for "X" .."Hey this guy does a pretty good X"..I bought one and it I recommend them..

Agreed.  And if you get asked FREQUENTLY, you might post a link that's ongoing, a "running link" of sorts, so when you get asked you just say  "click the pic below, take ya where ya needa go" (see example 1 inch up).

[mikesc]

"Agreed. And if you get asked FREQUENTLY, you might post a link that's ongoing, a "running link" of sorts, so when you get asked you just say "click the pic below, take ya where ya needa go" (see example 1 inch up). "

Well, I have to say..I'm just glad that wiz only posts text links then considering how many times he gets asked ( directly, as opposed to "does anyone know of a ..." IME, that is the way that 99% of threads here go, otherwise all the asking directly must be being done via pm* ) , else his "sig" would look like Times Square with all the images / ads.

You watch far more of these videos than I do ;) ..I think I only ever watched maybe two of Nigel's , and two of Harry's ( Oh ,and that one from the "Levi ( sewing machine dealer ) guy" who doesn't know how to thread a machine, and I watched a sailright one, till all the rattlin' and clankin' got too much, so I shut it off....

I must watch some of Brian's , despite the ads that youtube will put on / in / around them..all youtube ads I have ever seen ( not many ) are highly irrelevant to the subject of the videos..just like adsense went..irrelevant ads, at best for things that you already bought, or were just researching and don't want to buy..

*yeah..Mason1800 just asked you "directly"..but mostly..posters ask "everyone in general", when they post..or they send pms directly..

Edited September 10, 2019 by mikesc
typos, tired eyes..

[RockyAussie]

7 minutes ago, mikesc said:

.I must watch Brian's

They not that good mate, but you've gone and motivated me a bit now so have a look next week maybe. This stuff is all a bit academic for me but isn't a referral the same as an add really? I was sort of hoping that Jeff was getting something for those links in his sig as I was wondering about whether or not to look for any $$$$ myself in that area. You know like it might help pay to make a few worthwhile no BS vids. I don't know much about this bandwidth stuff but I would have thought Joanna would have said something or stopped it if she didn't like it. I might have to have a talk with her as I might be just adding some expense or other that I could be avoiding.

P.S. Any body reading this please support this site by being a proud  contributor and know that we all gain something from what this site gives back to us.

Brian

[mikesc]

:) Brian, if your videos are half as good as your "how tos" they'll be brilliant..I've no worries there :)

The bandwidth I meant wasn't Johanna's, although the server isn't "unlimited"..

I meant the bandwidth of anyone reading posts / threads..I have truly unlimited data allowance ( just as well as we "pull down" maybe 50 terrabytes per day at least just on the computer lines )n ..same "unlimited" data and calling for phones..But I know many in the USA who 's cell phone plans have very small data allowances..and "overages" can get expensive for them, or they can lose their service until the next month..I have a friend in the USA whose "cell plan" is 2 Gigs per month..no way to change..his supplier is the only supplier for 50 miles..Lot of towns in the USA have no choice..or a choice of only two providers..Some folks even have to pay when you call them!

A referral is if I asked you personally .."Brian, where can I get salt water croc skins ? "..And you said.."Phone Jimmy, he'll see you right"..So I phone Jimmy and say "Brian referred me to you"..

An ad is if every time anyone was peaking about anything, you joined in holding up a sign that said "Jimmy's saltwater croc skins"..
Nowadays it gets called "product placement"..Apple are masters of it..almost every computer on TV or in a movie has an apple on the lid..there is a coke can on every table..even in Video games there are billboards..Microsoft are crap at product placement..which is why in Hawaii 5 O they kept saying "just Bing it!"..which nobody would ever say.. :)

Often it's better to be not to actually be "paid", but to be at the front of the line , or be a priority with a supplier, because they have customers coming to them saying "Jeff, or Brian , or Mike sent me"..Next time you go ..you get thanks, and maybe a bit of extra service.. :)

ps..it is actually faster to make a text link to Jimmy'scrocskins.com ( takes less typing, fewer characters on the keyboard and in the HTML ) than to say .. "Click on the image in my sig , the blue one, to go to Jimmy's croc skins"..or takes more typing, characters, time etc to write "click the pic below, take ya where ya needa go" or "And you can get to Sandy by clicking the BLUE (earth) pic under my posts. Take ya right to her site" than it does to type http://intdieco.com/index.html

I'll bet there are already "rehashes" badly done by "instant experts" ( because they'll have seen your originals, and rushed to make copies, for the fame, the glory, and the ad money;) ) of your vids on youtube, daily motion and vimeo.

You should run classes ( online via subscription ..not on youtube ) ..as well as videos ,and books PDFs ( locked down against pirating ) , and real books..a project for when you retire :)

[cdthayer]

1 hour ago, mikesc said:

and two of Harry's

What????  Oh Mike, say it isn't so!!!!  You're endorsing Harry and his "release the tension during the sewing cycle" to get discredit JLSleather???  Really????  Are you feeling poorly today?

Maybe you should take a while off and go watch some videos.

Tisk, tisk, tisk

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