List of Youtube Leathercraft channels

[JLSleather]

Actually, I might be in on watch 1 er 2 o that @RA thing... we don't agree on everything but i think he got some good ideas.

But most "leather" videos is some du ... well, what I was going to say wasn't really flattering to anybody so maybe I'll just let that go.   Maybe I'll try Aussie's video er 2 if he puts em up.  I really kaint take that british accent much, but maybe down under be okay?

BUT, I still check on occasion, cuz COULD HAPPEN somebody actually post something worthwhile, beyond the standard [and genuinely pathetic] "hey look at me!.  Now, I did just watch part of one by Don Gonzalez.  Did NOT contain the information I thought it might (I've seen a few of his, and only once did I not agree with the way he was doing what he was doing).  SO THEN, since I agree with Don... a bit pointless to spend MUCH time watching somebody do what I already do! But at least the guy HAS A POINT. And I don't doubt that the video was of some help to more than one OTHER person.

The BANNER under my posts (if you prefer that terminology) looks like a total of 59kb.  That's K's, not M's.  IF somebody's "bandwidth" or cell plan or age limit or IQ is less than that, then they probably didn't make it past the log in anyway  And pretty much ANY ONE of the pics you see on this site is 5x that, minimum.  And they likely aren't watching ANY videos.  But the point is... if we've had that conversation before.. no need to PM and wait on a resonse... fella might just remember we talked about that.. and find ANY ONE of my posts for the link.

 

Edited September 11, 2019 by JLSleather

[mikesc]

I watched them cd :) ( "research" to see what you were talking about* when you mentioned his "release the tension"..But definitely did not endorse them..nor did I "discredit JLSleather" :)

You weren't making a referral there when you mentioned Harry, were you ? :)

I'd have missed this thread altogether ( it would have dropped off the "front page", and nowadays, having read all the old threads before I joined, I don't "explore" threads which are not in the right side column much, don't have the time ) but for Jeff posting ..
" Hey, guys... I'm SO excited about this new opportunity I just had to make this video to 'share it' with y'all ... :rofl:

How'sat go about 'protesting" too much?


Advertise:
verb (used with object), ad·ver·tised, ad·ver·tis·ing.
to announce or praise (a product, service, etc.) in some public medium of communication in order to induce people to buy or use it:to advertise a new brand of toothpaste.
to give information to the public about; announce publicly in a newspaper, on radio or television, etc.:to advertise a reward.
"
around 10 hours ago..
That post brought it into the right-side column..right when I was refreshing / relaunching a crashed Firefox session..

I read it and thought ..Matthew, chapter 7, verses 1 to 5

Especially as the reason given that the "sig" is "a referral" and "not an ad" was "when somebody asks me"..except nobody had asked at that point in this thread, but I'd seen 15 ads in the a same sig 5 times..and usually nobody does ask a specific person to recommend a specific supplier ( that is what pms are for ) they ask "does anyone know" or "can anyone recommend" , or "where can I find."..or "who sells", or "does anyone know who makes" ..but the ads in the sig are always there..that is what makes them ads..the "I make referrals, others place ads, and they should "fess up" about it", "protestation" amuses me.. :)

'n' Jeff enjoys the joust :)

[mikesc]

Ya got me..what is that @RA thing ?

"I really kaint take that british accent much, but maybe down under be okay?"

Good lord..Aussies don't speak with a British accent..

Most of the British don't either these days, London and Liverpool ( the fault of Two "soap operas", Brookside and Eastenders and one kids TV show ( Grange Hill ) have resulted in a huge number of English Brits talking like Tony Blair or David and Victoria Beckham ( if you can, call what they do "talking"..imagine naming your child Harper and being incapable of saying 'is naym"..c'mere 'arpah ) ..strewth..bludgers..

nearly, but not quite as bad as Dick Van Dyke in Mary Poppins, or that awful girl in the Elementary TV series ( not Lucy Liu who is as always perfect, but Ophelia Lovibond, who never met an H that she didn't drop..or also any end of word consonant for that matter..Diction ?..weev 'erd ovi inni .

Aussies speak like Aussies..clearly..which is why many are in Broadcasting and TV and Movies.

For instance ( not necessarily holding these up as to emulate,although they all do have very clear natural speaking voices when they are not acting a role, frequently as an USAian , but they are Aussies ) Russell Crowe, Cate Blanchett, Nichole Kidman etc..
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls002018429/
and
https://www.ranker.com/list/film-actors-from-australia/reference
and so that you have faces to put to the names..
https://thesmartlocal.com/read/australian-hollywood-stars/

Jeff.( I type slowly in English on a French keyboard..so I missed this )
"The BANNER under my posts (if you prefer that terminology) looks like a total of 59kb. That's K's, not M's. IF somebody's "bandwidth" or cell plan or age limit or IQ is less than that, then they probably didn't make it past the log in anyway ;) And pretty much ANY ONE of the pics you see on this site is 5x that, minimum. And they likely aren't watching ANY videos. But the point is..."

Yep 59kb isn't much..But a good web page, is a lean , lightweight web page,avatars and pictures in sigs is "bloat"..
the total "data weight" of the first page in this thread ( excluding images ) is 46.76 KB (47,880 bytes)..that is under 47 KB..for all the HTML ( the code behind the scenes ) and all the posts..even that is pretty "heavy" , but then it is software ( well scripts to be more accurate ) that generates each page and CMS software is always "heavy"..I remember when I would hand code entire websites of 50 or so pages ( including images ) to be less " heavy" than an average page on many websites including images now.. :o

The image upload limit ( per post , for most members here is 1.44mb..the size of a floppy disc ..and we used to get hundreds of images, photos, good clean well defined, colour, onto a single floppy disc..depending on the text, you could store between 500 and 700 pages of text on a floppy disc ) and some folks still complain that the image size here is too small for them to post images..or even a single image..

Edited September 11, 2019 by mikesc

[Matt S]

9 hours ago, JLSleather said:

AI really kaint take that british accent much, but maybe down under be okay?

Which one kaint you take? There's probably a few hundred local accents in Britain, several distinct British languages, and many regional dialects, though as Mike says a lot of them are disappearing fast. Here's a fair imitation of but 17 accents:

Legend has it, until the massive social changes of the 1960s, locals in high-population-density areas like London's East End could tell to within a street or two where someone had grown up just by their accent. Even today people from a region can tell a difference between people from adjoining cities, and non-locals can often tell which bit of each county the speaker's from.

[JLSleather]

8 hours ago, mikesc said:

Ya got me..what is that @RA thing ?

Rocky Aussie

8 hours ago, mikesc said:

Aussies don't speak with a British accent..

Didn't say they did. In fact, I made a contrast (whatever you call that over there, when you make a point of comparing two or more things, ONE of which might be acceptable and other(s) which are not).  I can't listen to a UK (whatever those are called now) but maybe watch a video by a Queenslander?

The wench wife is an imported Kiwi, so I have some knowledge of the dialects though never been there myself (WHY would i go there, they ALL talk like that).  I can generally pick up the difference quickly between NZ, AU, South African.... though she can probably tell you which side of town you're from.

Any rate, I've seen PARTS of videos by a couple people claiming to be from the UK (I wouldn't know, and they might have lied, though motive escapes me) with "accents" I simply wouldn't care to be subjected to for long.

Other hand, some from there would say the same thing about me.  When the wife's niece was younger (you know, teenager girls and those raging hormones) she would call when she KNEW we weren't home just so she could hear my "american accent".   ANybody else remember answering machines?@!

8 hours ago, mikesc said:

Yep 59kb isn't much..But a good web page, is a lean , lightweight web page,avatars and pictures in sigs is "bloat"..

You mean THIS site ?@!   98% of the content here is useless noise (that percentage is a statistic invented just now from thin air solely to make a point - I haven't counted it).  Embedded videos scattered through pages that have little to do with that video... etc.  I rarely mention a video, but if I do i know how to post the LINK for those who care, rather than embedding so that it plays for your friends on low cap cell plans.

I don't post pics in Megs (well, i might have done it once).  Just no point.  A pic doesn't need to be 2500 px across to make a point.  I'm with you actually, I like TEXT.  Got something to SAY, then SAY it.  BUt these days, people are LAZY.  If there isn't a video or a row of pics, they aren't going to get it.  And when I do TYPE, I often get people saying they're "visual learners"  

Course, gotta sometimes wonder why I bother to mention some things at all (admitted my own fault).   Those people who love to go on about videos, and often give you the link to those same videos, STILL don't seem to grasp the skill/task described in the video   Not sure how that's possible actually.  And I've had people thank me, thank me, thank me... for information I presented, which wasn't even mine and was clearly shown in that book they bought at Tandy over a year ago.

But the "ads" I was referring to... are mostly those where somebody "helps" leather workers out with yet another video showing the same thing he "showed us" in the last 5 (or 10) he made (I say 'he' because you don't see too many of the gals making them).

But my turn is coming.  One day soon I WILL make a couple more videos.  They'll be LONGER than what I would normally, usually do.  They'll have cans of peas lining a shelf somewhere in the room, so that I can say that I'm recording in "1080 peas". And I'll probably git me a pensil 'n' trace around a dummy gun... fer about 5 minutes .. all while refusing to mention that my teacher taught me how to trace around stuff when I was 4 ... 

Well, no maybe I won't do that.  Others already have that covered repeatedly. And that's my bottom line about videos.  Making a "how to" video?  Then it should show HOW TO do what it says (or you lied). Making a video that you've personally seen 10 other people explain already?  Then don't have such a SMALL MAN COMPLEX that you can't just say "to get this part, see this guy's video about that".

[JLSleather]

Now THAS JUST kinda funny.  In the midst of the discussion of videos, and content not about leather, we have a video - embedded content - about english or british or whatever accents

I used to watch Monte Python... cuz them boys is funny.  For half an hour.

 

[mikesc]

I agree with everything in your last two posts there Jeff.. :) Except for the "WHY would i go there, they ALL talk like that" ..

They don't, they have distinct accents depending upon which part of NZ they come from..Kind of like you don't sound like Emily Proctor..least I don't think you do ? :)..

Why do people make copies of other people's videos..instead of just linking to the originals ?..IME ( talked with some of them about it ) the search for fame, glory, the possibility of being a legend in their own bathrobe, and the enticement of Google maybe making them rich if enough people click on their video and allow the ads to roll..Which considering how much of a "niche" subject leatherworking is, "ain't gonna happen" ( look at the "view" numbers under any video, and then do the maths..The fact that since a while now ( about 3 years I think ) any "youtube channel" needs to have at least 300 "sign ups" ( that is actual "subscribers" ), to the channel, to get any money at all out of Google for each video seen..Google still roll the ads around and in the videos, and the advertisers still pay Google, but Google keep all the ad money..Unless the channel has over 300 subscribers ..even if it has hundreds of thousands, or millions of "views"..

Btw..the payout rate is 10cts per 1000 views..or less..Google keep much more than that per "view".

Making videos on youtube in the hope of getting rich via ad money from Google is right up there with the "idiot tax" ( lottery ) .

The people who get a living out of Youtube are those who have "sponsors", or who place "product" in their videos or who link out to "product" with "affiliate links"..Instagram, facebook et al work the same or a very similar way..

Yes..the "embedded" video about accents in a thread about videos , near blew my recently replaced irony meter ..again.. :)
Matt must have been typing with his tongue firmly in his cheek :)

Btw..pages with embedded youtube videos in them,( if you already have another tab open with a youtube video running, or that has had a youtube video running even if it is now finished, and even if the tab has now been closed ) run up the load on the RAM and the CPU ( on a phone, a tablet, a desktop or laptop machine )..even if the embedded video has not been clicked yet ..Because of the way that Browsers work they read the code that says "video is here" then they allocate resources to it, "just in case"..Like when you fire up photoshop, it grabs around 70% of your RAM, "just in case" even before you open any images with it. Video makes machines run slower, hogs resources..which is why machines that are set up to run a lot of video ( like gamers machines or video editing machines ) have a lot of RAM with the GPU, and fast GPUs..takes some of the "thinking / processing / calculating load" off the CPU and the MOBO RAM.

Think of "video" to CPUs as being like gum to Gerald Ford :)

Edited September 11, 2019 by mikesc

[ehvhram]

Thanks for listing links. I like Mascon leather as well. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0-AiIedBCWQZrh5uE9959w

[cdthayer]

"Posted 21 hours ago  I watched them cd ( "research" to see what you were talking about* when you mentioned his "release the tension"..But definitely did not endorse them..nor did I "discredit JLSleather" You weren't making a referral there when you mentioned Harry, were you ? :)"

Mike, leave off the smiley faces when you talk to me, and no, I was definitely NOT MAKING A REFERRAL.

You must not have watched enough of Harry's videos.  People can pull videos out of their patute to make money with Ya-patute, and Ya-patute doesn’t care as long as the views are there.  You’re really saying that you don’t see anything wrong with Harry’s videos?  Really?

Your quote: Advertise: verb (used with object), ad•ver•tised, ad•ver•tis•ing.
to announce or praise (a product, service, etc.) in some public medium of communication in order to induce people to buy or use it.

So...If the advertisement is false, or the video that they’re selling is false, you’re still good with it?

CD in Oklahoma

 

[mikesc]

CD.re the smiley faces I'm rarely logged in here, ( I'm not logged in now..the scripts that run here crash my firefox if I'm logged in ) so when I make smiley faces, they are as old school friendly emoticons, what the board software does to them and what anyone who is logged in sees in them..is nothing to do with me..

My point was that obviously you were not making a "referral" to Harry..by which I mean you were not making a referral in the sense of a recommendation of Harry, but you were saying he made videos..you were referring to him..but you were not referring him..I thought you'd have got the gentle humour there..

I've only watched two of Harry's videos..why would I watch more..I went back and watched the one that you linked to in your thread to make sure that I had not missed anything..and indeed he says that the tension is released..Which I agreed with you in an other thread is totally wrong..and incorrect..and illogical.

At no time have I ever said that I think there is nothing wrong with his videos..I have no idea where you get that from, that is putting words into my mouth ( or posts ) which have never been put there by me.

The quote that you attribute to me..is not my words either..it is me quoting what Jeff posted...I have no idea where ho got it from..it sure was not me, nor my words.

My words would be different as I consider the text that Jeff quoted to be an inaccurate definition of advertising..

and if I was going to use bullet points to make syllabic breaks in words, I'd actually make sure that the bullet points did make syllabic breaks in the words.."tised" is not one syllable, it is two syllables.

I have never said ( either on or off line ) that I am "good with" or OK with, or that I think that advertising which makes false claims is OK..

Having worked in advertising ( both in the UK and North America in the 70s, freelance with major international ad agencies, JWT, McCann, ( formerly McCann Erickson ) and others ) I was one of the people in the ad business who have always publicly been against false advertising of any sort..didn't make me many friends in the ad business ) ..I put honesty, integrity and ethics above profits, always did, always will.

"The video that they are selling" doesn't make sense as a phrase..who is selling which video ?

I presume you mean "the claims that they are promoting in their video(s)"

That would make more sense..

But I have never said that I was OK, with any of that, nor have I implied it.

You really need to stop miss quoting me, miss-attributing thoughts and motives to me which I have not had , do not have, and ( unless I get a sudden 180 shift in my ethics and personality ..unlikely ) will never have or say.

You might also want to stop trying to pick fights ( not the first time that you have tried this ) with me over what you imagine I have said or thought or done..I have no idea why you are doing so.

Edited September 12, 2019 by mikesc
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