Oval punches

[Spyros]

2 hours ago, chuck123wapati said:

Maybe alot of expensive bikes out there but not out here lol.  My town is only about 7000 so just not enough high end business. If people seeing you riding a bike here they think you lost your drivers license lol. Front fork easy peasy, first off clamp your suspension fork so it doesn't move up or down  then adjust the length until you get the feel you want, the bike doesn't know geometry so it doesn't care a bit lol. Then get rigid forks that length.

 yeah it wasnt that simple.  You see the part of the fork that goes in the frame sometimes has a taper, and you have to match the taper with the frame.  Problem is there is no standard taper, every fork manufacturer uses a different one, and sometimes they don't even tell you in the specs you kinda have to guess or go by trial and error.  And the specific bike frame was meant for a different taper, so i needed an exact taper reducer and a couple of boosters that all work with eachother, plus some accurate cutting and an obscure axle that would work with this fork and my wheel.   And the geometry of course, the new fork was a touch shorter and that affects steering, you never know how sharply the bike will turn or what will be your body position on the bike until you do all the above and take it for a spin.  So I needed someone willing to start over in case I didn't like it.

Most guys guys i asked were like yeah.... nah LOL

Edited August 16, 2020 by Spyros

[chuck123wapati]

13 hours ago, Spyros said:

 yeah it wasnt that simple.  You see the part of the fork that goes in the frame sometimes has a taper, and you have to match the taper with the frame.  Problem is there is no standard taper, every fork manufacturer uses a different one, and sometimes they don't even tell you in the specs you kinda have to guess or go by trial and error.  And the specific bike frame was meant for a different taper, so i needed an exact taper reducer and a couple of boosters that all work with eachother, plus some accurate cutting and an obscure axle that would work with this fork and my wheel.   And the geometry of course, the new fork was a touch shorter and that affects steering, you never know how sharply the bike will turn or what will be your body position on the bike until you do all the above and take it for a spin.  So I needed someone willing to start over in case I didn't like it.

Most guys guys i asked were like yeah.... nah LOL

LOL well you sure made it sound complicated or your bike mechs did.  Our world is often hampered by the modern human brain always trying to overthink things. Kind of like building a jig to punch holes  when a scrap of leather can do the same thing just as well.

[Alaisiagae]

On 8/15/2020 at 10:59 AM, chuck123wapati said:

Back on topic Why not just make a template out of leather shaped just like a belt with the holes and end cut to shape, lay it down on your belt blank and mark the holes trim the end and your done. 

I made a belt at a Tandy class, and we used a wing divider to measure and mark where to put the holes. It worked well, my belt looks great and the holes are lined up. Round drive punches, plus the slot punch for the buckle tongue, and also a strap end punch (I used an English Point, I like the look of it). I want to get some strap end punches, but they're kind of expensive to try to have some in different sizes. =/ 

[Danne]

40 minutes ago, Alaisiagae said:

I made a belt at a Tandy class, and we used a wing divider to measure and mark where to put the holes. It worked well, my belt looks great and the holes are lined up. Round drive punches, plus the slot punch for the buckle tongue, and also a strap end punch (I used an English Point, I like the look of it). I want to get some strap end punches, but they're kind of expensive to try to have some in different sizes. =/ 

You can make templates and glue to thicker card paper. Scratch your point and "stab" walk around the shape (if that make sense?) if your don't feel comfortable with cutting the shape. If you cut the shape start with a primary cut and make as many secondary cuts you need.

dm me if you need English point templates (and give me the width's you need) And also if you print A4 or letter size.

[jcuk]

58 minutes ago, Alaisiagae said:

I made a belt at a Tandy class, and we used a wing divider to measure and mark where to put the holes. It worked well, my belt looks great and the holes are lined up. Round drive punches, plus the slot punch for the buckle tongue, and also a strap end punch (I used an English Point, I like the look of it). I want to get some strap end punches, but they're kind of expensive to try to have some in different sizes. =/ 

Church window point /English point you don't need all the sizes i only have two which i got when i first started out all those years ago than learned to do this.

Hope this helps

JCUK

[Spyros]

5 hours ago, jcuk said:

Church window point /English point you don't need all the sizes i only have two which i got when i first started out all those years ago than learned to do this.

Hope this helps

JCUK

You mean you learned to understand Scottish???

(jk this is a great video)

Edited August 16, 2020 by Spyros

[Spyros]

7 hours ago, chuck123wapati said:

LOL well you sure made it sound complicated or your bike mechs did.  Our world is often hampered by the modern human brain always trying to overthink things. Kind of like building a jig to punch holes  when a scrap of leather can do the same thing just as well.

well considering the bike mechs were not taking the job it means they actually believed it was complicated.  The fork I wanted simply did not fit the frame.

[jcuk]

18 hours ago, Spyros said:

You mean you learned to understand Scottish???

(jk this is a great video)

How do you know that i am not Scottish myself.

Yes check his others videos out, no planning goes into them no thrills just honest videos that may help some and i know from first hand knowledge how good at this craft he is. 

And no i am not Scottish was going to use the rhyming slang term but would have confused you even more.

 

JCUK

P.S. just another use of the round knife save a lot of pennies buying punches or other tools you may not need if you learn to use one.  

Edited August 17, 2020 by jcuk

[chuck123wapati]

23 hours ago, Spyros said:

well considering the bike mechs were not taking the job it means they actually believed it was complicated.  The fork I wanted simply did not fit the frame.

oh i understand now. Here's my bike can you put this set of forks on it VS here's my bike can you put a set of forks on it. yea no wonder. 

[Spyros]

There's no set of forks, just a front fork