Contributing Member JLSleather Posted February 9, 2019 Contributing Member Report Posted February 9, 2019 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Tugadude said: JLS, I think you went way overboard criticizing this guy. Just my opinion. Fair enough I thought it was "way overboard" to make a video of such a simple idea, but if somebody was helped - good deal. I sometimes forget that people are willing to pay for a drawing of a rectangle if you call it a "leather field notes pattern". Well, no -- I don't forget.. I just don't grasp the concept of people who tout "custom", "hand crafted", and "unique" being willing to pay for a drawing of a rectangle. Just can't make sense of it. But I wasn't actually denigrating the guy; what i said was ... 2 hours ago, bikermutt07 said: This fella may be a decent guy, and may have had no intention other than to help folks out, so not saying it was anything nefarious. Edited February 9, 2019 by JLSleather Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
Moderator bruce johnson Posted February 9, 2019 Moderator Report Posted February 9, 2019 Bikermutt, Thank you for posting this!.This is obviously not a new concept and another way to hold straps. This is a fairly common shop hack that's been around probably for decades. The problem is a lot of leather workers haven't "been around" that long, and if not for the internet don't visit many shops. I hadn't seen the second piece tip before I saw this video. In the past I had a couple - one with a thick spacer and one with a thin spacer. Showing this was worth the price of admission and popcorn right there. As far as the other observations - Keith is a decent guy but personally I'd rank him way better than "decent". We've spent a little time BSing with him in his shop. He did do video this to help people out. It's not like he's making money off people screwing scrap leather to a bench. On the ribbons and awards comment - feel free to add one more. This weekend he got an arts award from the state of Wyoming. Quote Bruce Johnson Malachi 4:2 "the windshield's bigger than the mirror, somewhere west of Laramie" - Dave Stamey Vintage Refurbished And Selected New Leather Tools For Sale - www.brucejohnsonleather.com
Members MakerUnknown Posted February 9, 2019 Members Report Posted February 9, 2019 Points given as well to the Rockmount shirt he was wearing. Quote http://cargocollective.com/makerunknown
Members CelticPrint Posted February 9, 2019 Members Report Posted February 9, 2019 5 hours ago, JLSleather said: It's extreme for the situation. I do the same thing with an 18" ruler on a marble block. Yeah, I know the planet has been dumbed down and somebody is about to ask for a video of that too ITS A RULER. SITTING ON A FLAT STONE. If I'm doing a number of straps at the same time, I toss a quick clamp on the ruler to hold it more solid And like this thing, it's just a STOP. It IS helpful, because it keeps the strap straight. Edger can't bow the strap, so it cuts easier. Course, it's still the edger doing the edging. And when I'm done, the ruler goes in the drawer right under the marble until I need it again. Well if I got anything from this video it was following the comments to see this ↑↑. I think I like ruler and clamp just on the fact that I can put it away, I don't like clutter and that thing screwed to the table in the video would drive me crazy. Also I feel like I could slip and mess up a strap using the method in the video. Quote
bikermutt07 Posted February 9, 2019 Author Report Posted February 9, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, bruce johnson said: Bikermutt, Thank you for posting this!.This is obviously not a new concept and another way to hold straps. This is a fairly common shop hack that's been around probably for decades. The problem is a lot of leather workers haven't "been around" that long, and if not for the internet don't visit many shops. I hadn't seen the second piece tip before I saw this video. In the past I had a couple - one with a thick spacer and one with a thin spacer. Showing this was worth the price of admission and popcorn right there. As far as the other observations - Keith is a decent guy but personally I'd rank him way better than "decent". We've spent a little time BSing with him in his shop. He did do video this to help people out. It's not like he's making money off people screwing scrap leather to a bench. On the ribbons and awards comment - feel free to add one more. This weekend he got an arts award from the state of Wyoming. Thanks Bruce, glad I could play a small part in a real leathercrafter learning something new. And, it didn't cost a cent. Awesome. Edited February 9, 2019 by bikermutt07 Quote I'm not paying 80 bucks for a belt!!! It's a strip of leather. How hard could it be? 4 years and 3 grand later.... I have a belt I can finally live with. Stitching is like gravy, it's only great if you make it every day. From Texas but in Bossier City, Louisiana.
Contributing Member fredk Posted February 9, 2019 Contributing Member Report Posted February 9, 2019 I suppose I should make something fit for purpose rather than cobbling together a stright piece of MDF, supported by the blocks on a Black & Decker workmate thingy, or using a the side of a block of granite for short straps Quote Al speling misteaks aer all mi own werk..
Members Rhale Posted February 9, 2019 Members Report Posted February 9, 2019 Thanks for posting, watched the video and thought it was great. I will make one for my table. Quote
Rockoboy Posted February 10, 2019 Report Posted February 10, 2019 I think I will make one of these for my workshop, but I will mount it to a piece of timber with a leg attached below. That way, I can hold it in my vice, rather than cluttering up my workbench with fixed tools or jigs. Quote Kindest regards Brian "Whether you think you can or whether you think you can't, you are right" Henry Ford Machines: Singer 201p, Kennedy, Singer 31K20, Singer 66K16 ("boat anchor" condition), Protex TY8B Cylinder Arm (Consew 227r copy), Unbranded Walking Foot (Sailrite LSV-1 copy)
bikermutt07 Posted February 10, 2019 Author Report Posted February 10, 2019 4 hours ago, Rockoboy said: I think I will make one of these for my workshop, but I will mount it to a piece of timber with a leg attached below. That way, I can hold it in my vice, rather than cluttering up my workbench with fixed tools or jigs. That's a good idea. I have been pondering a docking station to use with all the different presses and such. Then just pull out the one I need at that time. Quote I'm not paying 80 bucks for a belt!!! It's a strip of leather. How hard could it be? 4 years and 3 grand later.... I have a belt I can finally live with. Stitching is like gravy, it's only great if you make it every day. From Texas but in Bossier City, Louisiana.
Members billybopp Posted February 11, 2019 Members Report Posted February 11, 2019 @bikermutt07 I found it, I forgot it, I lost it, and then found it again. ... Welcome to Senior Moments! ... And thanks for posting this! 17 hours ago, Rockoboy said: I think I will make one of these for my workshop, but I will mount it to a piece of timber with a leg attached below. That way, I can hold it in my vice, rather than cluttering up my workbench with fixed tools or jigs. I was thinking the same thing. As a saddlemaker of some renown, Seidel probably has need of a tool like this on a daily basis, so it would make sense for him to have some bench space permanently devoted to is. For most of the rest of us, some sort of temporary setup makes more sense. I was thinking a piece of wood or plastic with the jig mounted to it then clamped to the table, but I like your idea of using a vice mounted jig even better. Sometimes, the simple ideas are the best ones ... You know, the ones that you see and then think to yourself "Why didn't I think of that?". And that is especially true when it's something as easy to make as this! I've tried different methods for this problem, with the best being a dowel to run the leather against, and holding it down with the same hand holding the tool holds it down which worked OK, but eventually got uncomfortable and let the leather ride up sometimes. I'll be making something like this for sure! - Bill Quote
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