I need clicker help

[DavidMillsSaddlery]

2 hours ago, Matt S said:

Looks like a rotary switch with an array of capacitors potted to the back. Don't quite know how it fits into your electrics but worth being aware of.

Do you have any sort of schematic? They were often included with machine manuals.

I’ve yet to find a manual...

What the variables do is link then the length of the stroke! I’ll have to post a video on YouTube and put the link here so y’all can see what I’m talking about…

[JJN]

I have a manual for a different model (USM Hytronic Cutting Machine Model C) but it looks very similar. You might find some useful info in here. It is 23MB so I cannot upload it here. I put it on dropbox, just follow the link.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/9mhb7vq5wnf0d9r/HCM-C-Parts-Service.pdf?dl=0

 

[shoepatcher]

I may have a manual.  USMC made the Model A and Model B clickers.  They were hydraulic with a pump on them.  Not sure what difference was between model A and B.   Usually board size 18 x 36 or 20 x 40.  15-20 ton capacity.  Hydraulic oil in bottom of the machine in a container to power the pump.  Yours has the big head on it.  Parts not really available anymore.  Most in service have had the electrical board rewired or redone.  The model C is a mechanical Clicker called and Ideal clicker.  Yours definitely needs new hydraulic oil in it.

glenn

[DavidMillsSaddlery]

 

15 hours ago, JJN said:

I have a manual for a different model (USM Hytronic Cutting Machine Model C) but it looks very similar. You might find some useful info in here. It is 23MB so I cannot upload it here. I put it on dropbox, just follow the link.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/9mhb7vq5wnf0d9r/HCM-C-Parts-Service.pdf?dl=0

 

Thank you!!!!

14 hours ago, shoepatcher said:

I may have a manual.  USMC made the Model A and Model B clickers.  They were hydraulic with a pump on them.  Not sure what difference was between model A and B.   Usually board size 18 x 36 or 20 x 40.  15-20 ton capacity.  Hydraulic oil in bottom of the machine in a container to power the pump.  Yours has the big head on it.  Parts not really available anymore.  Most in service have had the electrical board rewired or redone.  The model C is a mechanical Clicker called and Ideal clicker.  Yours definitely needs new hydraulic oil in it.

glenn

If your manual is different than the one he linked above, would you mind sharing? 

Thanks! 

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[Mark842]

Yeah, it looked like the rats living in that nest were feeding on your wires. You probably can wire around the potentiometer to make the press work but without that working properly you will constantly be ruining your cutting boards. You might try contacting these people. They have helped me out with parts over the years. http://www.cjrtec.com/clicker-press-parts.php?5c8d15d1ac684

 Don't know where your knowledge is on electronics but if you have an ohm meter you should be able to read across the terminals on that Pot that the wires are hooked to WITH NO POWER APPLIED and turn the dial on the pot and see if the resistance changes. I'm guessing that pot is either open or just so dirty the mechanical wiper isn't making contact anymore when it turns. If you can find an old part number on that thing you might get lucky searching direct for a spague part but if you found one it would be a survivor.  I replaced one in one of my Fipi's a few years back with a newer type I bought from the link I gave you. It was about 1/10th the size and I had to make my own adapter plate to put it in but it works great. If I remember right it cost me about $150.

[Matt S]

I still reckon that's an array of capacitors rather than resistors wired to the back of that rotary switch. Sprague yellow cans, voltage ratings printed on the side, polarity bands... sounds like caps to me.

Those are probably polarised therefore on a DC branch of the circuit. My hunch is that they form part of a RC time delay. Perhaps thats how the length of stroke is controlled.

@turbotexas good job replacing that wiring, very neat. Did you find anything like the bottom of travel microswitch that was mentioned upthread?