Contributing Member JLSleather Posted March 13, 2019 Contributing Member Report Posted March 13, 2019 Well, I would not have thought it would ever happen - the day I say something "disparaging" about wickett / craig leather. I'm not the only one who has noticed and commented on a declining quality on the leather coming out of there. I kept "one more chance" ing them because they have in the past sent me some STUNNING leathers. But at this point, I think I need to give them some space for a while. Last batch of about $1,000 is every bit of 50% unusable. The one before that wasn't much better. One whole side of what is "called" the top shelf stuff has vertical wrinkles (like stretch marks) all along the hide -- meaning that it would not be possible to cut even a single belt from it without those marks. NOW, I'm not "eating" the cost, since it all gets paid for in the end, but it doesn't do much for MY margins. If I can't cut projects from between the "boogers" so my work doesn't have them, then it's landfill material. At this stage, I remember that I am not their employee or their distributor. Not my responsibility to see that they sell leather (though I certainly have recommended them multiple times in the past). I am not ignorant or uneducated about what good leather is supposed to look like. But either they think I won't know the difference, or perhaps they simply don't HAVE the same quality they used to provide (?). I'm more than a little bent about it this time, as calls to them to discuss it have not proved beneficial. Sorry isn't worth much if you send the same thing again... Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
bikermutt07 Posted March 13, 2019 Report Posted March 13, 2019 Well I hope they do something about it. Quote I'm not paying 80 bucks for a belt!!! It's a strip of leather. How hard could it be? 4 years and 3 grand later.... I have a belt I can finally live with. Stitching is like gravy, it's only great if you make it every day. From Texas but in Bossier City, Louisiana.
Contributing Member JLSleather Posted March 13, 2019 Author Contributing Member Report Posted March 13, 2019 Nah, nothing to "do about it". I'm not returning it, doing all that mail tag. I'll make enough on the clean sections to pay back what I spent on it, and call Hermann Oak. Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
bikermutt07 Posted March 13, 2019 Report Posted March 13, 2019 54 minutes ago, JLSleather said: Nah, nothing to "do about it". I'm not returning it, doing all that mail tag. I'll make enough on the clean sections to pay back what I spent on it, and call Hermann Oak. That's too bad, I was kind of talking about that as well as fixing their quality issues. Quote I'm not paying 80 bucks for a belt!!! It's a strip of leather. How hard could it be? 4 years and 3 grand later.... I have a belt I can finally live with. Stitching is like gravy, it's only great if you make it every day. From Texas but in Bossier City, Louisiana.
Members YinTx Posted March 13, 2019 Members Report Posted March 13, 2019 I just ordered quite a pile of leather from there yesterday. I haven't ordered from them in a long while. Now you have me concerned. I guess we'll see when it arrives! YinTx Quote YinTx https://www.instagram.com/lanasia_2017/ https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLK6HvLWuZTzjt3MbR0Yhcj_WIQIvchezo
Contributing Member JLSleather Posted March 13, 2019 Author Contributing Member Report Posted March 13, 2019 What'd ya buy? I was talking about pre-dyed skirting leather. I got some less than stellar english bridle too, but I don't order enough of that to make broad statements about it. I SUPPOSE (guess) their policy is to take it back if you're not happy, but I've never returned any so wouldn't really know. In fact, maybe that's the problem.. if I didn't return it when it started south, maybe somebody decided I didn't know any better and they could just send me ANYTHING laying around? Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
Members BattleAx Posted March 13, 2019 Members Report Posted March 13, 2019 I order English Bridle and Show harness from them all the time I haven't had any problems. I do order natural skirting that I use on the back side of my gun belts no problems. If you have an issue with there leather give them a call they should take care of the problem. Quote
Contributing Member JLSleather Posted March 13, 2019 Author Contributing Member Report Posted March 13, 2019 Well, yeah, "should". But after multiple conversations and thousands of dollars, I surrender. Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
Members YinTx Posted March 13, 2019 Members Report Posted March 13, 2019 7 hours ago, JLSleather said: call Hermann Oak. Also heard they've had issues with lower quality lately as well. Let us know how that goes. 4 hours ago, JLSleather said: What'd ya buy? Some Grade 1 tooling and some bridle, and then some of their tannery run overstock stuff that I don't expect to be perfect. I have high expectations, which they have met in the past. We'll see how it goes this time round. YinTx Quote YinTx https://www.instagram.com/lanasia_2017/ https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLK6HvLWuZTzjt3MbR0Yhcj_WIQIvchezo
Members koreric75 Posted March 14, 2019 Members Report Posted March 14, 2019 31 minutes ago, YinTx said: Also heard they've had issues with lower quality lately as well. Let us know how that goes. Some Grade 1 tooling and some bridle, and then some of their tannery run overstock stuff that I don't expect to be perfect. I have high expectations, which they have met in the past. We'll see how it goes this time round. YinTx I watched a video last week about leather "grades" that kind of opened my eyes a little and made me less comfortable about buying online sight unseen...I bought a scrap bundle of bridle a couple weeks ago and was really happy with the way my little pieces worked out, wanna buy sides, but again...sight unseen on $40 for a few pretty good size scraps, and $200+ for a side is a big difference when you're small time. Quote Machines currently in use: Cowboy 3200, Adler 67-372, Singer 66, Singer 15-91
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