Members Yankee63 Posted March 14, 2019 Members Report Posted March 14, 2019 So, I bought a HU-JI, looks like model 43-6. My painted casting has no sharp edges, the machine was completely pre threaded so I could just tie off new thread and pull it through. This patcher came with 12 spare bobbins, a new crank rod looking replacement part and it came with a shiny new take up lever for the top front of the machine. It came with a spool of thread, a pack of needles and even a new bobbin carrier spare part. Top that off it had 2 layers of leather sewn and needle holding it in place to show that the machine worked prior to shipping. The stand for it is completely useless, but I attached it to a chunk of wood to hold it securely. I will build a stand for it with a removable table to make flat surface around the needle area. Here are my questions. 1) Can I run 207 thread with a 22 needle? or am I at max thread size with 138? 2) Are there alterations I can make to use larger thread? Other than those questions I do have it up and running fairly smooth for breaking in a hand cranking machine that does go through 3 layers of tough horse hide. I have a major helper as my wife used to work for Boy Scouts sewing and making patches. Her knowledge of sewing machines has really helped me. So, if I can get some help on thread sizing by people who use these machines it would be greatly appreciated. The more experienced people with these machine may know a way or trick to use nice thick thread for my holster sewing. Thanks Doug Quote
Members dikman Posted March 14, 2019 Members Report Posted March 14, 2019 There are a couple of different sizes they make in these Chinese patchers; but the most commonly sold model appears to be the smaller one (mine is definitely the small one). I'm limited to #68 thread and it uses standard domestic needles. I believe some have used #138 but I reckon you'll be struggling to get any bigger thread through it. As for holsters, just how big is this machine? There's no way mine could sew holsters. Quote Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500. Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)
Members Yankee63 Posted March 14, 2019 Author Members Report Posted March 14, 2019 Its the regular size. My wife used it to sew through 3 layers of dry horse hide. Granted I need to work on my foot pressure and sharp points, but it is easily capable of 3 layers of 5-7oz. Once I get a few minor bugs out of it, I do believe I can easily sew 2 layers for a holster. It will also allow to spin the leather around and follow the original stitch holes to double up the thread. Worked nice for a basic set up and run. I will snap a picture of it. Just the regular ol cobbler machine. I think a table around the needle would suit it better to do more than just patches. Proof is in the pudding. When I get it set up as I want it, I will show ya all the results. Doug Quote
Members Yankee63 Posted March 15, 2019 Author Members Report Posted March 15, 2019 here's what I got Quote
Members Yankee63 Posted March 15, 2019 Author Members Report Posted March 15, 2019 I cannot show a picture with the size allocation to show the spare parts Oh well. Have fun all Doug Quote
Members SilverForgeStudio Posted March 15, 2019 Members Report Posted March 15, 2019 (edited) 19 hours ago, Yankee63 said: I think a table around the needle would suit it better to do more than just patches. Proof is in the pudding. When I get it set up as I want it, I will show ya all the results Looks like the standard model- mine had casting flash all over the parting line. Required a bit of grinder-love to make it not snag the thread and fingers... no bueno! Plus mine was loaded with cosmoline- had to strip it, kerosene wipe down and re-assemble (with proper gear lube for rack and oil the arm and cam pivots) before I could use it. You can make a table easily with a sink cutout from a Corian countertop (smooth and durable) or Melamine surfaced plywood easily. Why would you want these materials? Hey- glad you asked... they are smooth, easy to clean and provide the least amount of cleanup (Spray down- wipe up)... One thing you will need- the crank handle nut needs a washer or locking nut- otherwise its very frustrating to use it and have the crank fall off the shaft in your hand every so often (ask me how I know... )... One more thing you may wish to consider also is adding a witness mark to the bobbin shuttle IN THE ARM- as it sits with the crank handle at TDC (top-dead-center). This will allow you to "find" the shuttle position if you have to reload mid stitch or have to remove it for jammed threads. Silver Edit to add: Dont forget to file down the presser foot teeth! Edited March 15, 2019 by SilverForgeStudio Quote
Members nylonRigging Posted March 15, 2019 Members Report Posted March 15, 2019 Does not sound like the machine to own from what you just described ??? . I am sure it a fine tool and adequate machine for shoe cobbling on the streets of communist Vietnam or China . But not sure about Investing your time in the lowest common denominator . old saying of ..."putting lipstick on a pig ". . Quote
Members dikman Posted March 15, 2019 Members Report Posted March 15, 2019 Looks the same as mine. Like SilverForge I spent a lot of time grinding and cleaning parts but for what they are they're not bad little machines, pretty simple and somewhat bulletproof! Quote Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500. Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)
Members SilverForgeStudio Posted March 15, 2019 Members Report Posted March 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, nylonRigging said: time in the lowest common denominator True- but for those of us who are learning and would like the ability to speed up from hand stitching and get a feel for threads and such it is a good threshold machine (albeit hand powered). It is not a replacement for hand stitching for me- just a way to keep going after hands are sore or I have a time crunch and would like to finish a batch. Being new and on a budget- it offers a bit of speed and familiarization- and a decent lower budget intro for the ability to sew thicker belts and sheaths (for me anyway) Your mileage may vary- I am time rich and money poor for the hobbies department. An even trade- a bit of labor to get it functional, and now I know a few things about what I like (and dont like) about this style of machine. Quote
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