Sole stitcher that’ll do double row stitching!

[DavidMillsSaddlery]

I’m looking for a sole stitcher for making boots, and want to know which ones are capable of doing the popular double stitch? Is there a special attachment one needs to do this?

thanks! 

[Hockeymender]

I suggest you check with Robin Industries. They make machines for the shoe industry. I have dealt with them in the past and was very happy with their customer service. 

http://www.robinindustry.com/index.html

[DavidMillsSaddlery]

9 hours ago, Hockeymender said:

I suggest you check with Robin Industries. They make machines for the shoe industry. I have dealt with them in the past and was very happy with their customer service. 

http://www.robinindustry.com/index.html

I’m hoping to be able to use an old K model! Or maybe a champion! I like old iron...

[Wizcrafts]

4 hours ago, turbotexas said:

I’m hoping to be able to use an old K model! Or maybe a champion! I like old iron...

Nope. That would require two needles, two awls and two bobbins. The Landis and Champion sole stitchers have one of each. They sew around the outside perimeter of the sole, upside down, just missing the uppers. There is no room for two rows of thread in that very narrow space.

OTOH, I have seen two and three rows of stitching on the uppers (e.g., Redwing boots). Is that what you are looking to do? Puritan Industries makes multiple needle and awl chainstitch machines that do that.

[DavidMillsSaddlery]

No, the kids are wearing boots, that have two rows of stitching on the welt, and I’ve read that Puritan makes an attachment... 

[Wizcrafts]

2 hours ago, turbotexas said:

No, the kids are wearing boots, that have two rows of stitching on the welt, and I’ve read that Puritan makes an attachment... 

That makes sense for the insole/welt. Puritan only produces machines to order now. They can't sew the outsole on a boot with two needles because they have straight needles and awls. There would only be room for one row of stitching on the outsole. There is a lot of danger of hitting the upper with a straight needle. I have resewn soles on my Cowboy CB4500, with the inline foot set, and you have to pull the upper leather away from the machine as you sew to avoid scratching it with the feet or needle.

This (outsole stitching) is really the domain of curved needle machines (single row only)! Most bootmakers and shoe repair shops have a Landis 12F or 12G curved needle and awl lockstitch machine. Others use a Frobana/Gritzner, or Junker and Ruh hand-cranked curved needle only machine.

[DavidMillsSaddlery]

This is what I’m looking for

[dikman]

Are you sure that's been done with a twin needle machine? The two rows of holes don't line up that well.

[arashikage]

My family has been in shoe repair for over 40 years and I have never seen a double needle outsoler. You typical outsoler does have a guide on it so you can adjust where the stitch is going to hit the welt. They most likely have a guard set at different depths and stitch it twice. If you look at the bottom right side of the pic the stitches are closer together. That wouldn't happen on a double needle.

Ariat is one of the boot companies to make this double row popular over the past few years. But I can't find if they just double stitch it or not.

[Doc Reaper]

That boot was not done on a double stitch machine, in third world countries they make em go around twice