Singer 16K SV 11 - I could not resist

[toxo]

8 minutes ago, mikesc said:

See his sentence in the first post beginning with "Interesting features...
There may be more... SV machines were sometimes "one offs" ..

OK, so what's a jump foot (meaning how does it work?) and a long beak shuttle? Some of us didn't cut our teeth on a sewing machine.

[mikesc]

Jump foot..top foot pulls whatever is under it towards the back ( like a standard domestic sewing machine top foot, which you'll have seen ? )..but when it reaches the back..it jumps forwards again to repeat the action..patchers do this too.

Long beak shuttle..you have round bobbins..and torpedo shaped ones ( the latter are usually referred to as shuttles, because they "shuttle"* ) ..long beaked refers to the end or beak, which on this one is longer than would be usual..
Someone probably has some pictures of both, maybe even some video of both things..maybe Constabulary has taken, or will take some and post them.

Sewing machines is a bit like train spotting or car or motorcycle enthusiasts..there is some "arcane" terminology , although with sewing machines the precise terms are usually pretty descriptive.

*Some bobbins look like shuttles..and some "shuttles", don't "shuttle", they spin..it all depends..which is why when someone says they are having a problem, or how can they do...the usual reply is post pictures and or take a video, so that everyone can be sure that they are talking about the same part(s) actions etc..

It is even worse in French, where even the pros sometimes use "slang" words to describe parts or actions..or will say the equivalent of "triple action " top feed, bottom feed and needle feed all working together ( which is also called compound feed ) when they mean "double action"..top and bottom feed , or either top or bottom feed combined with needle feed.."jump foot" in French has so many varieties of description , that you could shake a stick at them..and they vary with the age of the speaker, and where they are from.

[toxo]

Thanks Mike (I think). So presumably the bottom plate is smooth and the top foot (or needlebar?) acts like an upside down feed dog?

[CowboyBob]

Here's one I picked up that didn't have a model# tag on it from 1891,it has the long beak too.It looks like a 16 class to me.

Edited September 12, 2019 by CowboyBob

[mikesc]

" the top foot (or needlebar?) acts like an upside down feed dog?" ..yep..you've got it :)
.On a patcher the bottom is smooth ( no feed dog ) on other machines it can vary, feed dog, or no feed dog..

That one is for when you have ten minutes ( per day for many many days ) to spare to renovate it eh Bob :)
"Violin" type base too..

Edited September 12, 2019 by mikesc

[toxo]

I do see the attraction. There's not much in the way of machinery that was so well designed and built 150 yrs ago that they can still be used today.

[dikman]

10 hours ago, toxo said:

Thanks Mike (I think). So presumably the bottom plate is smooth and the top foot (or needlebar?) acts like an upside down feed dog?

Except if you look at Constabulary's machine it has a feed dog.

[mikesc]

That's why I said
"On a patcher the bottom is smooth ( no feed dog ) on other machines it can vary, feed dog, or no feed dog.."
However..I can't remember* which machines other than patchers, have a smooth bottom plate, apart from embroidery machines..and mine ( Singer 20U , zig zag and straight stitcher, which can do embroidery ) doesn't have a jump foot..Then again freehand embroidery is done without a foot attached.

*Maybe someone can ?

[SARK9]

Singer model 78's....since we are in olden machines.

-DC

[mikesc]

Thank you DC..that would have kept me awake trying to remember one. :)