Jason046 Report post Posted December 4, 2019 And yes you are right, water and saddle soap are fine to burnish with before dyeing but I learned the hard way that bees wax and gumtrag can seal the leather so if you get some on your leather it wont accept the dye Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jason046 Report post Posted December 5, 2019 On 11/18/2019 at 10:11 AM, fredk said: I only use a beeswax/nfo/carnauba wax mix for my edges. Edge is dyed and then the mix is applied with a cloth and burnished using either a wood slicker or just a piece of linen. Hey, this is probably a stupid question but I was going to try your mix and was wondering what nfo was? Cant find a description for it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billybopp Report post Posted December 5, 2019 nfo is short for Neatsfoot oil. (not neatsfoot compound) - Very useful stuff in leather work in a number of ways. My preferred edge finish is a quick burnish with water and maybe a little saddle soap - then dye as needed. A light burnish first helps keep the dye from oversaturating, as it sometimes does on a raw edge. That's followed by a more thorough burnish using Tokonol, and maybe a little beeswax after that. Tokonol makes a beautiful edge, but for some things it's a little too shiny, beeswax knocks that shine down a bit. I do use a 50/50 beeswax/nfo mix (melted together in a jar in a water bath) as an overall finish for some items, if needed melted in with a hairdryer. It makes a very nice finish - not too glossy, not too matte, and water resistant. - Bill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jason046 Report post Posted December 6, 2019 11 hours ago, billybopp said: nfo is short for Neatsfoot oil. (not neatsfoot compound) - Very useful stuff in leather work in a number of ways. My preferred edge finish is a quick burnish with water and maybe a little saddle soap - then dye as needed. A light burnish first helps keep the dye from oversaturating, as it sometimes does on a raw edge. That's followed by a more thorough burnish using Tokonol, and maybe a little beeswax after that. Tokonol makes a beautiful edge, but for some things it's a little too shiny, beeswax knocks that shine down a bit. I do use a 50/50 beeswax/nfo mix (melted together in a jar in a water bath) as an overall finish for some items, if needed melted in with a hairdryer. It makes a very nice finish - not too glossy, not too matte, and water resistant. - Bill Nice, yes I have used neatsfoot oil for awhile just didnt know the abbreviation. I have been doing a similar process. Burnish withwater to get the edges to come together, then dye and finish with beeswax. Just tried the 50/50 mix of beeswax and nfo today and really like it. Might get some Ron's edge rub and give that a try as well. Right now we do about 20) 65"straps a month so I get alot of practice. Lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeilMott Report post Posted December 6, 2019 Hey Frodo. No hard feelings. It's tough to judge tone, etc online. I appreciate you saying so. Threads wander and often I find out new/different ideas by reading through threads that we're always 100% on topic. Best, Neil Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites