Contributing Member MedusaOblongata Posted December 12, 2019 Author Contributing Member Report Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) Thank you all so much for the replies. I disconnected the belts and spun each component separately and it's the speed reducer that's making the noise, definitely not the motor or the head. Oddly, it just started happening, nothing else had changed. I'm not sure what would make that happen, how to quiet it, or whether it's a sign of something bad or just a noise? Is there a spot on the speed reducer that needs to be oiled? As far as why I posted here first, it wasn't to badmouth Bob or Toledo or Cowboy. I've learned most of what I know about leatherworking from the knowledgeable and helpful folks here on this forum. And long before leatherwork, I discovered forums as one of the absolute best places on the internet to find friends, camaraderie, information, answers, and ideas. Every time I have a question, the first thing I do is search the relevant forum. It was from this forum that the Cowboy was recommended, on this forum that Toledo was recommended, on this forum that I learned about leather sewing machines and what they can do. This is where my experts are. I apologize if my post came across in a negative way. I am grateful for each of you who've taken the time out of your day to respond to my problem. Thank you. Edited December 12, 2019 by MedusaOblongata Quote
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted December 12, 2019 Moderator Report Posted December 12, 2019 Maybe the bearings are bad, or dry on the reducer. Or, perhaps the belts were too tight. Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
CFM Frodo Posted December 12, 2019 CFM Report Posted December 12, 2019 The cause of the noise is obvious the belt is to short.. machine is in a 9 line bind on a downward pull if you keep running the machine the shaft bearings ARE going to wear out then you will need another motor Quote Singer 66, Chi Chi Patcher, Rex 26-188, singer 29k62 , 2-needles D.C.F.M
CFM Frodo Posted December 12, 2019 CFM Report Posted December 12, 2019 How to measure for a belt remove old belt run a string around the pulleys mark the string where the 2 ends meet measure the string. that is the length you need Quote Singer 66, Chi Chi Patcher, Rex 26-188, singer 29k62 , 2-needles D.C.F.M
Contributing Member JLSleather Posted December 12, 2019 Contributing Member Report Posted December 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Frodo said: The cause of the noise is obvious the belt is to short. IS IT? Or is the CHAIN shortened too much? Relaxing the chain (to the foot control) should let the motor level, right?@! Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
CFM Frodo Posted December 12, 2019 CFM Report Posted December 12, 2019 1 hour ago, JLSleather said: IS IT? Or is the CHAIN shortened too much? Relaxing the chain (to the foot control) should let the motor level, right?@! lol. good point Quote Singer 66, Chi Chi Patcher, Rex 26-188, singer 29k62 , 2-needles D.C.F.M
Contributing Member MedusaOblongata Posted December 12, 2019 Author Contributing Member Report Posted December 12, 2019 There is some slack in the chain. Quote
Members dikman Posted December 12, 2019 Members Report Posted December 12, 2019 I'd say belt.The chain has nothing to do with the motor, you can see the motor/pedal linkage down on the left. Re-adjust the motor mount to give a bit of slack between the motor and the reducer. Bearings don't usually squeak when they're starting to fail, they tend to make more horrible grunching/grating/rumbling noises. Make sure everything is aligned and running true - and not drum-tight. Quote Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500. Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)
Contributing Member MedusaOblongata Posted December 15, 2019 Author Contributing Member Report Posted December 15, 2019 I emailed a link to the video to Toledo, and Bob said it's a bearing and he sent out a new speed reducer, which I've installed and it's working quietly now. I'll be mailing the old one back to him and hopefully he'll let me know if this is due to some kind of user error. Quote
Members Arturomex Posted December 15, 2019 Members Report Posted December 15, 2019 Props for Bob's customer service. Quote
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