What's a necessary journey?

[toxo]

I need to go 30 miles into London to pick up a sewing machine. Will I get away with saying I'm getting it to sew masks? I'm happy to pay a courier but the seller isn't able to palletise it.

[fredk]

Really depends on Mr Plod. I would time it so that you travel during a busy traffic time. Mr Plod is less likely to stop one car in many than one car on an empty road. If you have to explain do it everso politely. Your reason sounds very reasonable - to me

[Constabulary]

You are buying a sewing machine for your business and / or  to sew protective masks - no better reason!

[toxo]

1 minute ago, fredk said:

Really depends on Mr Plod. I would time it so that you travel during a busy traffic time. Mr Plod is less likely to stop one car in many than one car on an empty road. If you have to explain do it everso politely. Your reason sounds very reasonable - to me

I agree Fred. It's so annoying though when all depends on whether he pours out his coffee at the moment you drive by. I think it's too good a deal not to try. 

I've tried to sort out a pallet but as usual the courier wants everything all wrapped up ready for pickup. All very well for a company but there are many who are just not able to do that.

[toxo]

On closer scrutiny, it's an Adler 69-372 not the 373 which I thought it was. This machine won't handle Tkt 20 polyester will it?

[fredk]

I kno nutting bout that

I know we have differences in  the system and with that in mind; two weeks ago No.1 son drove 60 miles to me, bringing food. He stayed over night then drove home the next evening. He drove down and up our M1. Never saw a Plodmobile. However, that weekend the Plods said they had stopped over 2500 motorists to check and handed out over 190 fines. Where? No.1 said he just drove normally, so might not have attracted the attention of roving Plodmobiles

[toxo]

I've gone and bought it now. 

 

[fredk]

[dikman]

So you drove in and back with no problems?

[toxo]

1 hour ago, dikman said:

So you drove in and back with no problems?

Just paid a deposit. Have to arrange with SIL to go and collect in the next few days. Not looking forward to carrying it up the stairs ☹️

[Handstitched]

@toxo O'h goody !! a new toy   Bet you can't wait to get sewing ? I now how that feels. But after carrying  it up the stairs, you may need a chiropractor . 

I hear ya on the restrictions on movement. I want get some equine stock from my  wholesale supplier, over  2hrs away,  but I can't pick it up . I can get a courier to pick it up, but it will cost  a lot more than a tank of fuel  , and fuel is cheap as right now, below $1 ltr.  But restrictions will be relaxed...slowly .......soon(?)  so I'm hoping regional border restrictions are is of them , fingers crossed  eh ? 

Thankfully my leather supplier can deliver state wide for orders $100 + , I can't pick & choose doing that, but I know I can trust them.

Good luck with your machine, have fun  

HS

[toxo]

44 minutes ago, Handstitched said:

@toxo O'h goody !! a new toy   Bet you can't wait to get sewing ? I now how that feels. But after carrying  it up the stairs, you may need a chiropractor . 

I hear ya on the restrictions on movement. I want get some equine stock from my  wholesale supplier, over  2hrs away,  but I can't pick it up . I can get a courier to pick it up, but it will cost  a lot more than a tank of fuel  , and fuel is cheap as right now, below $1 ltr.  But restrictions will be relaxed...slowly .......soon(?)  so I'm hoping regional border restrictions are is of them , fingers crossed  eh ? 

Thankfully my leather supplier can deliver state wide for orders $100 + , I can't pick & choose doing that, but I know I can trust them.

Good luck with your machine, have fun  

HS

Thanks HS. I think they'll be forced to open up soon. All the years of austerity over here has left everyone on their knees and now they've no option but to take the 80% of what little they had to start with. The economy won't stand much more of it and they'll have to get some things up and running soon. I think the unnecessary driving thing is nonsence. You're hardly likely to catch it or pass it in the car and considering how much the gummint earns out of cars I think that'll be one of the first things to open up.

But yes! it'll be good to play around with a cylinder arm and see what it can do. I'll let you know after the hernia operation:)

[toxo]

So, any advice on the dismantling procedure when I go to collect it? Never had a cylinder arm but I can see there's a turret that the main thing sits on. Do I leave that in place or does everything above table level come off? I know the head is gonna be heavy but could I lift it? I'm stronger than I feel ya know

[dikman]

Generally there's four bolts holding it to the table, remove those and lift the whole thing off (after disconnecting any lifters, of course). As for lifting it there's a pretty good chance that you can, my 335 is no problem to move.

[toxo]

Thanks dikman. The SIL lives about 25 miles away so he would have to drive to me, then to London, then back here to me and then he'll have the drive back home. I'm trying to work out if I can spare him the hassle. Then again. it's one thing lifting it. It's another getting it up the stairs.

[Bert51]

When I got my Adler 105, I had to travel about a thousand kilo's home, like dikman said undo the 4 main bolts holding it to the table, I was able to wrap mine in an old sheet and put it behind my seat and pushed the seat back and with extra padding, it did not move a faction.

I took everything off the top of the table, turned it over and took the legs/frame off and as it was raining cats and dogs, I put the table with motor still attached upside down, in my boot of our car and I put the frame in my trailer.

I have done this several times to allow machines to follow me home and found it easy to do with a little bit of help.

Bert.

[dikman]

Oh yes, the table......every used machine I've bought I took the head off the table and like Bert said wedged it carefully so it couldn't move, then I dismantled the table completely to get it in the car and make it manageable. The biggest pain was always the clutch motor!!

[Wizcrafts]

On 4/21/2020 at 7:52 PM, toxo said:

Just paid a deposit. Have to arrange with SIL to go and collect in the next few days. Not looking forward to carrying it up the stairs ☹️

Hire a piano mover!

[Bert51]

I found it easier to leave the motor on the table , that way two people can handle it easier then one and place it in the boot upside down.

The wife and I had little problems putting the top and motor in the boot.

Bert.

[dikman]

Unfortunately there's only one of me and I'm not exactly built like Arnie!

[toxo]

Thanks guys, you make me feel that I can leave the SIL where he is. The seller did mention that we should manage it between us (with a mask on) so she seems up for it and it is on the ground floor. I have a Honda CRV with fold flat back seats so not worried about getting it in and won't need to dismantle anything under the table.

Wiz: Brief as usual. Is a piano mover a he or an it?

[Bert51]

What I know as a Piano mover is a 4 wheeled trolley, you rock the piano up on one end and side the trolley under it, once it under the piano you can push the piano where ever you want it.

It sounds like dikman nd I would be no help to you, we'll have to stay home this trip.

Bert.

Edited April 23, 2020 by Bert51

[toxo]

Turns out the SIL wants to give his Vito a run and I'll take a sack truck so shouldn't be any problems. Since she's getting rid of her machine, she's got some leather and tools I might be interested in.  

[shoepatcher]

Main difference between 372 and 373 is the hole in the feed dog and throat plate.  373 will use heavier thread.  Just enlarge the needle holes in these two items.  I think the biggest thread it can use is #92 nylon.  It  has been a while since i had and worked on one.  great machine.  I seem to recall having trouble with running #138 in the needle thread.  Still use #92 in bobbin.

glenn

[toxo]

50 minutes ago, shoepatcher said:

Main difference between 372 and 373 is the hole in the feed dog and throat plate.  373 will use heavier thread.  Just enlarge the needle holes in these two items.  I think the biggest thread it can use is #92 nylon.  It  has been a while since i had and worked on one.  great machine.  I seem to recall having trouble with running #138 in the needle thread.  Still use #92 in bobbin.

glenn

I have read of someone using #138 on a 372 but I'll wait and see how it's set up. Not getting rid of my Durkopp 239 any time soon and that goes heavy enough. I'll never be doing anything bigger than handbags.

Technical Data courtesy of Constabulary.