Members Danne Posted September 24, 2020 Members Report Posted September 24, 2020 (edited) This is not exact dimensions, I just estimated the dimensions for credit cards, and calculated the dimensions based on spi. Also keep in mind I haven't used Autocad since I was in school over 20 years ago. So I click the wrong keys sometimes during the clip. But Autocad is really awesome for making templates. The downside is the high cost for the software, but you can test it for 30 days for free. The reason I even tried Autocad (I have been using Sketchup before) was because you can calibrate your printer so you get exact dimensions in the feed direction. I have tried 1 new and three older laser printers and only one of them was close to perfect dimensions (the really old one) I managed to make a linetype for the stitching, unfortunately I didn't manage to use it in a new file because it didn't align properly, I have to look into what settings I may have changed for it to work. (Probably a font setting I made because it's based on a font) The principe of the linetype (.lin) for this is: A,0,(Stitch length offset 3mm in this case) ,["|",STANDARD,S=(Diagonal length 1.6 for Ksblade),R=(Radii, negative 45 degrees in this case),X=-(X-axis offset to center of prong + stitch length),Y=-(Y-axis offset to center of prong)],0 I'm sure there are better ways to solve this by using shapes instead of a font. Edited September 24, 2020 by Danne Quote
Members Handstitched Posted September 24, 2020 Members Report Posted September 24, 2020 G'Day, Have you ever thought about just using a pencil, a ruler, and a rubber ? Just a thought Thats all I ever use . I try to keep card holders/ cases, (and wallets) simple but practical . Some customers want pockets for this, more pockets for that and a folding thing-a-ma- bob in the middle, ......and room for a flat screen TV .Just kidding HS Quote ' I have a very gweat friend in Wome called Biggus Dickus, He has a wife you know, do you know whats she's called? Incontinentia.......Incontinentia Buttocks '
Members HondoMan Posted September 24, 2020 Members Report Posted September 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Handstitched said: G'Day, Have you ever thought about just using a pencil, a ruler, and a rubber ? Just a thought Thats all I ever use . I try to keep card holders/ cases, (and wallets) simple but practical . Some customers want pockets for this, more pockets for that and a folding thing-a-ma- bob in the middle, ......and room for a flat screen TV .Just kidding HS All I've ever done as well mate. Done in no time and no involvement of using a computer. Just a wee coffee and give it a go. Quote http://lederwaren-allgäu.de/ https://www.instagram.com/scottishknightleather/
Members Tugadude Posted September 24, 2020 Members Report Posted September 24, 2020 Different strokes for different folks. Many here are not likely to use technology simply because it didn't exist when we began. The advantages are plentiful. Changes can happen and no paper is thrown away for starters. And the "filing system" doesn't depend upon hard copies that need a place to store them, nor do they need to be dusted off prior to using. Personally, I'm in the ruler and pencil crowd, but I admire those that have the skills to do it another way. So thanks Danne for one brief example of the power of technology. Quote
Members Danne Posted September 24, 2020 Author Members Report Posted September 24, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Handstitched said: G'Day, Have you ever thought about just using a pencil, a ruler, and a rubber ? Just a thought Thats all I ever use . I try to keep card holders/ cases, (and wallets) simple but practical . Some customers want pockets for this, more pockets for that and a folding thing-a-ma- bob in the middle, ......and room for a flat screen TV .Just kidding HS The answer to Hondoman is to you also. But I just had to clarify that the stitching lines is no problem here, it does work since this file is a template file that is ready for making all my drawings. I just mentioned it because maybe someone else using this software want me to share the the solution for making stitching lines, which I btw will solve and share for different spi. 4 hours ago, HondoMan said: All I've ever done as well mate. Done in no time and no involvement of using a computer. Just a wee coffee and give it a go. For me personally making drawings with pen and paper is not an option, because I can do it quicker on the computer, and I can use tools that can measure the distance around curves and count the stitching so it adds up. Something that of course is possible to do without a computer with the help of trigonometry, but it would be very time consuming. But I do think it depends on the type of products if computer software is something that gives a better result (Just have to say, of course I know there are crafters which are a lot better than me who make drawings by hand.) for me it's worth a lot because I can plan out everything in detail before I start my project. So for me it improves the quality of my work. We all do things different, but I shared because I know there are other crafters out there who also make their drawings with computers software. And also for me it would take a lot of time making these drawings on paper with a pen and with good precision. A friend of mine told me one of his customers work with some sort of construction and have done for many years, he still make all drawings with pen and paper, and he said "You would be amazed if you saw how quick he was" Edited September 24, 2020 by Danne Quote
CFM chuck123wapati Posted September 24, 2020 CFM Report Posted September 24, 2020 i can understand using a computer program if you have computerized machines that run off cad programs to cut patterns and such but for the hobbyist or one man shop its just more time and money investment, especially for wallets , card holders and such once you've made the pattern there just isn't a need IMO. it may take an hour to make a card holder pattern by hand then you have it forever, scan it save it and print it whenever if your old one wears out. I'm of the age that i have learned every darned operating system including dos bought thousands of dollars worth of computers operating systems and programs that are/were setting in my basement because they are no longer "supported" meaning they just want to make more money off of us not that they weren't adequate. Just hauled a milk crate completely full of floppy discs and old cds of programs that no longer work to the dumps, INCLUDING a couple expensive autocad programs But to each his own folks spend that money, take that time learning a program you will have to relearn at the next update or simply repurchase because its unsupported while i use my pencil , and paper template and do leather work. Me, i like simple! Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
Members Danne Posted September 24, 2020 Author Members Report Posted September 24, 2020 13 minutes ago, chuck123wapati said: i can understand using a computer program if you have computerized machines that run off cad programs to cut patterns and such but for the hobbyist or one man shop its just more time and money investment, especially for wallets , card holders and such once you've made the pattern there just isn't a need IMO. it may take an hour to make a card holder pattern by hand then you have it forever, scan it save it and print it whenever if your old one wears out. I'm of the age that i have learned every darned operating system including dos bought thousands of dollars worth of computers operating systems and programs that are/were setting in my basement because they are no longer "supported" meaning they just want to make more money off of us not that they weren't adequate. Just hauled a milk crate completely full of floppy discs and old cds of programs that no longer work to the dumps, INCLUDING a couple expensive autocad programs But to each his own folks spend that money, take that time learning a program you will have to relearn at the next update or simply repurchase because its unsupported while i use my pencil , and paper template and do leather work. Me, i like simple! For me I don't agree. I often need very good precision, down to around 0.5mm and a lot of parts with almost the same dimensions and a difference between 0.5-1mm for trimming or a construction for a slim design. It would take me a lot of time making these with pen and paper. On the computer I can start drawing and I can make small changes. I can make a revision after I made my first wallet/watch strap. If I need to make another length of the same watch strap or add a pocket to a wallet it take me minutes instead of hours. Here is an example. Making a 22-20 strap in a different length of this strap would take me like 10 minutes, It would take me A LOT of time doing it with a paper and pen. Quote
Contributing Member LatigoAmigo Posted September 24, 2020 Contributing Member Report Posted September 24, 2020 I can't draw a straight line, much less cut a straight line. So when personal computers became affordable, I jumped right in (late 1980's). Now days I use a laser to cut and etch all my work, and could not do it without the help of Adobe Illustrator. A pretty long learning curve and much money spent, but all I can say is that I'm very happy with the results. Quote
CFM Frodo Posted September 24, 2020 CFM Report Posted September 24, 2020 Here ya go. Quote Singer 66, Chi Chi Patcher, Rex 26-188, singer 29k62 , 2-needles D.C.F.M
CFM chuck123wapati Posted September 24, 2020 CFM Report Posted September 24, 2020 i love how we went from making a nothing to it card holder to the most intricate work possible to prove the point how many watch bands or purses does it take to pay off an autocad program, a computer, a laser cutter, printer then all the updates and rebuys, personal time learning and relearning? If i had to use this to create i would pay some teenager, buy my patterns, and pocket hundreds if not thousands. but yall don't have to convince me to buy new toys lol my toys just aren't computers I've played that game. Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
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