Members Tugadude Posted November 6, 2020 Author Members Report Posted November 6, 2020 3 hours ago, buzzardbait said: I think these tools are made in Japan. Check out Leather Mob on Etsy. The Tandy website says made in China. I would much rather they be made in Japan, but sadly they aren't. Quote
CFM tsunkasapa Posted November 6, 2020 CFM Report Posted November 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Tugadude said: By the way, I wasn't singling you or anyone out in particular. Thanks for the reply. I have noticed some on this forum treat Tandy Leather like a piñata and it seems to me nothing they ever do will be enough to satisfy. Sadly, Tandy has let too many of us down too many times in the past. It will years before they earn back our trust. Quote Hoka Hey! Today, tomorrow, next week, what does it matter?
Members Danne Posted November 6, 2020 Members Report Posted November 6, 2020 5 hours ago, Tugadude said: The tools appear to be the identical price, at least when I looked at the site. There is mention of free shipping however. Edit: I've never understood the attitudes of some members of this forum regarding Tandy. Perhaps they have had problems with Tandy in the past and it has left a bad taste in their mouths? Personally, even if that is true there is a time at which you have to admit that it isn't the same Tandy. New leadership, website, pricing structure, products, etc., etc. No comparison to "the old Tandy" really. I'd love someone to explain to me how shooting them down at every turn, predicting their demise, etc., etc. helps the leatherworking community. Shouldn't we all want them to succeed? Wouldn't that be a sign of a healthy industry? But they still sell a lot of more or less useless tools. I understand that those tools I talk about is for beginners, but I did the mistake as a lot of other people to buy some beginner tools from Tandy. One of them (The diamond hole chisel set) is possible to use but there are way better choices, even a cheap set for a couple of usd from Aliexpress is a better choice. Why? because they are so far from sharp you can get, you have to hammer them down with A LOT of force, and they leave HUGE holes. Buying Seiwa or LC-diamond (Goodsjapan or Leathercrafttools) is a better choice for a beginner. The Mini leather punch set isn't just bad tools, I would go so far to say it's fraud, I have mentioned this before on this forum and showed photos. Can you make a hole with them? yes, but you can with a steel pipe too if you punch hard enough. I can understand that a company can make mistakes and sell a tool that is not good, but not learning and keep selling useless things will just end one way. You loose customers and finally enough customers so you have to close down. Quote
Members Retswerb Posted November 6, 2020 Members Report Posted November 6, 2020 6 hours ago, Tugadude said: The tools appear to be the identical price, at least when I looked at the site. There is mention of free shipping however. Interesting, I see them all the same now as well. When I first looked they were mostly 10-15% cheaper on Etsy, with a couple of items like the folder more like 50% cheaper. I’ve got a small Tandy about 20 minutes from me and while I don’t love the selection, I try to buy there regularly because it’s valuable to me to have a local place where I can pick up things in person at the drop of a hat. If they go out of business there’s no way they’d be replaced by another leather store, of course. I sure appreciate being able to see and touch actual samples of dyes and finishes and I can fish through the leather stacks to find ok pieces - for which I pay no shipping and can take home and start on immediately. I have no doubt my opinion of the company would be far lower if my experience with them was purely by mail. Quote
Members battlemunky Posted November 6, 2020 Members Report Posted November 6, 2020 Here is why I have issue, among a few other things, with Tandy. Guess which one is Herman Oak and guess which one is Tandy. That is from removing blue tape after tooling. One is nearly hairy, the other is nearly perfect. Both are shoulders. Aside from poor leather sold at similar prices as HO, I’ve encountered more often than not, Tandy sales folks just hawking stuff for the sake of hawking it. Asking for an item that you are very familiar with just to be pointed to a completely different item just for an up sell, as if you were stupid, by a sales rep is unacceptable. That is how the leather industry is hurt not us bagging on Tandy. They are the only chain available to a lot of folks and instead of preying on hapless victims they should learn how to help people in stead of trying to liberate their money from their wallet. if I wouldn’t have encountered this at multiple Tandy’s in multiple states I’d let it slide but it is systemic I fear. That helps neither themselves, newbies, or the jaded and knowledgeable they try to grift on. Yet I continue to patronize them from time to time. Quote
Members Spyros Posted November 6, 2020 Members Report Posted November 6, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Danne said: The Mini leather punch set isn't just bad tools, I would go so far to say it's fraud, I have mentioned this before on this forum and showed photos. Can you make a hole with them? yes, but you can with a steel pipe too if you punch hard enough. Is that the silver one with the set of black screw-on tips? I bought this thing too, I broke a tip the first day, and broke another one the day after, they just broke in half. I was so ftustrated I got nervous laughter :D Then I don't know what got into me but whenever I shopped at Tandy I kept adding replacement tips in the basket, like it was somehow my responsibility to keep this tool functional, so now I have a collection of random tips in overlapping sizes. And the funny thing is I keep using it a lot. Occasionally a tip breaks, I buy more. I could've probably bought a nice Osborne set by now with how much money I've spent on it Edited November 6, 2020 by Spyros Quote
Members Danne Posted November 6, 2020 Members Report Posted November 6, 2020 14 minutes ago, Spyros said: Is that the silver one with the set of black screw-on tips? I bought this thing too, I broke a tip the first day, and broke another one the day after, they just broke in half. I was so ftustrated I got nervous laughter :D Then I don't know what got into me but whenever I shopped at Tandy I kept adding replacement tips in the basket, like it was somehow my responsibility to keep this tool functional, so now I have a collection of random tips in overlapping sizes. And the funny thing is I keep using it a lot. Occasionally a tip breaks, I buy more. I could've probably bought a nice Osborne set by now with how much money I've spent on it It was this set. https://tandyleather.com/collections/tools/products/mini-leather-punch-set if you look in some of my earlier posts you will find where I show a photo of the cutting edge and how much I had to sharpen them to cut. A tool for beginners shouldn't need to be completely reshaped and sharpened to work. Quote
Members Spyros Posted November 7, 2020 Members Report Posted November 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Danne said: It was this set. https://tandyleather.com/collections/tools/products/mini-leather-punch-set if you look in some of my earlier posts you will find where I show a photo of the cutting edge and how much I had to sharpen them to cut. A tool for beginners shouldn't need to be completely reshaped and sharpened to work. Because of the shape of the tool I don't find it hard to sharpen, I just mount it on a drill and run a sandpaper on the outside and then clean the burr on the inside with a roundjewelers file. Takes me a couple of minutes per tip. My problem with those tips is that they literally break if I'm not VERY careful what I punch and how I punch it. But somehow I got used to it.. I like how I can have the whole "system" in a small container next to me instead of having 10 "real" hole punches of different sizes, I don't know... I think my future is the same thing but from a better manufacturer, I have to research it. Quote
Members Danne Posted November 7, 2020 Members Report Posted November 7, 2020 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Spyros said: Because of the shape of the tool I don't find it hard to sharpen, I just mount it on a drill and run a sandpaper on the outside and then clean the burr on the inside with a roundjewelers file. Takes me a couple of minutes per tip. My problem with those tips is that they literally break if I'm not VERY careful what I punch and how I punch it. But somehow I got used to it.. I like how I can have the whole "system" in a small container next to me instead of having 10 "real" hole punches of different sizes, I don't know... I think my future is the same thing but from a better manufacturer, I have to research it. Yes, it was easy to sharpen. But a tool for a beginner shouldn't require to be reshaped and sharpened. Kevinlee have nice hole punches, also Ksblade have or had a version with interchangeable punches. Also I think this is a good set (I'm not certain, because I can't find the seller I got recommended way back) But it looks like it's the same. https://www.etsy.com/se-en/listing/679842132/individual-sizes-05-20mm-steel-round?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=leather+hole+punches&ref=sr_gallery-1-23&organic_search_click=1&pro=1 Personally, i'm looking at Kevinlee's hole punches, and I will buy those sizes I need. I found the Ksblade set, they have a couple sets and they cost a lot but good quality tools. https://ksbladepunch.com/product/multi-hole-punch-14-pcs This set would be nice, but it also cost like a Chinese bell knife skiving machine lol. https://ksbladepunch.com/product/multi-hole-punch-large-28-pcs-set Edited November 7, 2020 by Danne Quote
Members Spyros Posted November 7, 2020 Members Report Posted November 7, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Danne said: Yes, it was easy to sharpen. But a tool for a beginner shouldn't require to be reshaped and sharpened. Kevinlee have nice hole punches, also Ksblade have or had a version with interchangeable punches. Also I think this is a good set (I'm not certain, because I can't find the seller I got recommended way back) But it looks like it's the same. https://www.etsy.com/se-en/listing/679842132/individual-sizes-05-20mm-steel-round?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=leather+hole+punches&ref=sr_gallery-1-23&organic_search_click=1&pro=1 Personally, i'm looking at Kevinlee's hole punches, and I will buy those sizes I need. I found the Ksblade set, they have a couple sets and they cost a lot but good quality tools. https://ksbladepunch.com/product/multi-hole-punch-14-pcs This set would be nice, but it also cost like a Chinese bell knife skiving machine lol. https://ksbladepunch.com/product/multi-hole-punch-large-28-pcs-set wow, that last one... I mean if you need it you need it, right? Problem is I don't really, I hardly ever cut such big holes. And when I do need one or two odd-shape holes I have this cheap set of cutters, I pick the one i need, hold a piece of wood over it and give it a good smack. Does the trick. KS Blades... I love the chisels i bought from them, but for hole punches it's probably overkill. Plus it took a very long time to make and receive from Korea. I like the ones you linked on Etsy, they have a good shape. Hmmmmm Edited November 7, 2020 by Spyros Quote
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