Tandy Doodle Pages

[Johanna]

I have no recollection of seeing any staples on Doodle Pages, ever. I know ones that have been rolled, not folded, are considered to be worth more. When I was a Tandy mgr. in the 90s, Doodle pages came on a big pad and we tore the sheets off as needed. When empty, the back (cardboard) was great for pattern templates, too.

Johanna

[WyomingSlick]

Well, yes I have some doodle pages with staple holes in them. They are the small ones that were the center pages in the leather magazines (The Craftsman and The Leather Craftsman). I am somewhat confused about Rhonda's story about it being against eBay policy to allow them to be sold. There are literally millions of items sold on eBay that are copyrighted and were given away initially. Copyrights usually only prohibit the copying of protected material (and that includes electronic media), not the selling of the original. In some cases, the original copyright owner does maintain ownership of the material and may prohibit the transfer of even the original material to any other. This should be stated on the item. I have seen some government publications where this was the case.

As to the idea of Tandy making available a CD collection of past Doodles; yes, that would be great. I suggested that to them years ago; but so far....nothing. As to members copying them and disseminating the material; I suggest that if you do.....you had best do it on the sly....."Big Brother is watching."

[dsh1126]

I know this post has not been used in a while, but so you all know. It is not legal for peeps to sell the doodles on ebay.

If you report the seller, there account will be deactivated. I bought a doodle from a guy on ebay, he claimed it was an original. Suprise suprise no Staple holes, usually means it is a illegal copy. About a month later Ebay caught up with him and shut him down.

I do not have any doodle pages with staple holes ... The ones I always got were padded in packs of 50 with glue on edge of pack ... just like notepads....

Just my 2 cents ...

David

[WyomingSlick]

Here's the other 98 cents on doodle pages.

Doodle Pages first came out in 1949 as a promotional item for Craftool, the company started by Dick McGahan to produce quality tools for the large number of people who were taking up leathercraft as a hobby.

The first Doodle Page (pic 2.) was just as the name implied; a sheet showing several doodles demonstrating techniques for tooling as done by Cliff Ketchum (shown in pic 1 holding a gun on Dick McGahan on the right - promo for The Leather Craftsman magazine). Cliff was the featured artist on the first six Doodle Pages. Following him, many other of the foremost leather craftsmen in the Southern California area displayed their "doodles" and craftsmanship in these pages: Al Stohlman, Ken Griffin, Al Shelton, Joey Smith, Christine Stanley. and the list goes on and on for over 50 years!

The early Doodle Pages were only printed on one side of 17 1/4 " X 11 1/8" page. It wasn't until series 4 (the fourth year) that the pages were printed on both sides. Usually the reverse was promotional material for Craftools, Craftaids, the Leather Craftsman magazine, etc.

Speaking of The Leather Craftsman magazine. The very early issues of The Leather Craftsman had Doodle Pages in them that were not identified by any series or page number (see pic 5). In later years, the centerfold in the magazine was a copy of the currant Doodle Page as shown in the pic 3 of a Doodle page on top of an identical centerfold Doodle Page. These magizine centerfolds would be the Doodle pages that are found with the staple holes in the center. Of course the back of these would have part of magazine articles on them. At least once that I know of, there were two concurrant doodle pages printed back to back as shown in pic 4.

It seems that the early Doodle Pages could be obtained simply by sending the coupon on each page to a Craftool Dealer for the next one. Later on, this coupon would be omitted and it would simply be stated that Doodle Pages were free with any Craftool Purchase. I imagine most dealers were like the one I patronized as a kid; they would give one to whoever wanted one.

Numbering of Doodle Pages was done by starting a new series every year with a new page each month. At the end of series 12 (year 12), they started the next series with 1B. Then came the C series, D, E, F and so on...

I really believe Doodle Pages stand in the first rank of the most successful and long running promotional campaigns ever. And I think that TLF is missing a great opportunity here in not reproducing many of the old Doodle Pages in a collection for sale.

Edited May 11, 2010 by WyomingSlick

[King's X]

Ms. Jo

First, I would love a copy of those doodle pages, I have collected quite a bit but far from the entire collection. I just won't page for them off ebay...rip off in my opinion. Anyways, I believe we can come to a somewhat quick solution or answer to this burning question. Send me a PM and we can work on it for the benefit of leather worker members.

See ya.

[Johanna]

Sam, this is an old thread. TLF owns the rights to the Doodle Pages, so digitally sharing them without permission is not possible. I will get my daughter to catalog my paper collection this summer and be glad to give away any duplicates to anyone who is interested, but I won't sell any because I didn't pay for any of them. Maybe if you have friends in high places at Tandy, they will give you a copy of the infamous CD? It's a real treasure, packed with nostalgia and information from some of the most respected artists in the business, dead and alive, front and back scans of all the Doodle Pages. If Tandy would publish it, I would tell anyone who wants to improve their leatherwork art to buy it. But, AFAIK, it's not available at this time.

Johanna

[King's X]

I am but a simple man. I do not have friends in high place and never claim to have them, but I am never afraid to ask! Let me do some dog work and maybe I can track down the right person to ask permission. It never hurts to ask! At least that is what I teach my children. In exchange for trying, I would love any duplicates that you may have and I would gladly pay for shipping and handling. Thanks for the offer....you're too kind!

As for eBay, if what was said earlier, eBay would not be in existence if reselling your items was illegal. There are some sellers on eBay now that are selling books on CD's and they thousands of feedback ratings! So....I don't know.

Ms. Jo: I'll get busy on this like a one legged man in a '_ ss' kicking contest and get back to you via PM.

[WoodysWorkshop]

Tandy offers them as a free download now.

By individual pages, or by collectors groups.

I just got done downloading all of them.

I know this is 10 years old, but it showed up on a search I did for something else so I thought I would comment.

I was searching for a reason the doodle pages were discontinued.

If anyone knows, please share.

Thank You Kindly.

[Retswerb]

Just following up here with the link, I don’t know if it’s all of them but there are sure a lot - and all still free for now: https://www.leathercraftlibrary.com/category/29/doodle-pages?pagenum=1

[FishEggStew]

The Leathercraft Library site was absorbed into Tandy's new site a bit ago, so here is an updated link if any are interested:

Leathercraft Library — Tandy Leather, Inc.

The site has pretty much all of what was on Leathercraft Library; PDF's, videos, etc. and it appears it's still free.