Etsy update, prohibited items

[austinious]

On 6/22/2021 at 11:08 AM, Rahere said:

Supreme Courts aren't the highest. Treaty binds them, and in extremis, the International Court of Justice. In Europe, the European Court of Justice. Treaty is higher than those laws and decisions.

Wait a minute...Are you trying to say that the EU has jurisdiction over the USA?  Ummmmmm, I call BS.  Treaties can be dumped by those involved, like Brexit....  I know, I know....Don't feed the troll....My Bad.

[Rahere]

4 hours ago, austinious said:

Wait a minute...Are you trying to say that the EU has jurisdiction over the USA?  Ummmmmm, I call BS.  Treaties can be dumped by those involved, like Brexit....  I know, I know....Don't feed the troll....My Bad.

No, the Vienna Convention has. That's the UN and ICJ, the basic mechanism for diplomacy. You sign a treaty, you stick with it unless ALL signatories agree to dispense with it (eg Treaty of Brussels 1954). One party cannot ditch it unilaterally just because it doesn't suit. This is why the ICJ exists, to decide if a State has cause for complaint against another, and what a just solution should be. The US won't remain a world leader very long if it starts cowboying around, I assure you. Brexit didn't dump a treaty, it used Article 50 in the Treaty to withdraw, in due and proper legal form. There's a difference.

The EU's German President has a very legalistic outlook, and a distinct dearth of practical experience. She had to be moved out of harms way after she f'ed up her previous job, Defence Minister, by leaving her Army without boots for years. So you may well find dear Ursula's the perfect person to take the US to the ICJ. It might not get her very far, certainly, but it'll give Russia a right belly laugh in response to the US interfering with their pipeline deal. References to Canada are not far away.

Again, the reason the Vienna Convention was created was because your suggested policy was becoming commonplace. This is why your Security Services lined up behind General Milley in January, he talked of a Reichstag moment. That was very much Trump's advertised intent, and could have happened, had the Pretorians backed it. The thought of a new Fuehrer, which would have had most of the rest of the world in kittens had it happened, was clearly ludicrous to all but his hardcore devotees: his retreat to the bunker had many of us thinking of the same precedent.

The world has moved on, and that kind of person isn't fit to lead a horse, let alone the world. He's a throwback, and he knows it. Me? I was 20 years, give or take, a senior staffer in the European State Department, and I'm the only spouse in 70 years to meet the standard set by the Rosenberg Interdict. Seriously. We held Germany's reins from 1945-1990, until such time as the Nazi party had become history. The UK outlaws such bodies routinely, making it a criminal offence to be a member. The US should consider doing likewise: there's plenty of precedent in the activities of the House Un-American Activities Committee, and what could be more un-American than trying to overthrow the Constitution by force?

Edited July 17, 2021 by Rahere

[YinTx]

1 hour ago, Rahere said:

un-American than trying to overthrow the Constitution by force?

You know what, this belongs in the off topic section.

Edited July 17, 2021 by YinTx
this conversation does not belong here

[Rahere]

6 hours ago, YinTx said:

You know what, this belongs in the off topic section.

No, because it still comes back to the basic question of marketability of certain products, things Etsy bans. Unless and until controlled availability is taken seriously everywhere (ie never, because there will always be some fool who knows better), it's hopeless to have it otherwise. I've just been explaining the international legal context, which is not that of the heyday of the cowboy. In the 1930s, what was suggested was true: it led to war, so the ground rules were changed.

Sales control could come up in other areas, too, the risqué end of leatherwork, for example.

[YinTx]

9 hours ago, Rahere said:

because there will always be some fool who knows better

This is laughable for you to say, since you have deemed it your decision whether or not the response I had typed previously belonged in this thread or another.  It was not your decision, it was mine.  And I decided to delete it and explained my decision in the revised post that was left.  Just as it is not your decision who is or is not fit to lead.

 

On 6/21/2021 at 9:48 AM, Rubicon04 said:

I was just talking about this with my wife the other day. A new "Etsy" site needs to be created for actual handmade items. Etsy is pointless anymore with all the mass produced junk allowed to be posted now. 

This.  Is there not another option out there?  Surely there is...

YinTx

[Lobo]

The amazing thing to me is that people still want to do business with the bozos running that site.