CFM chuck123wapati Posted December 7, 2021 CFM Report Posted December 7, 2021 46 minutes ago, Tugadude said: I didn't think you were. And you ask some really good questions. Here's some answers based on what I've experienced. when do you use a cast? It really does nothing on very thin, pliable leather, so I never do it then. If anything I found it counterproductive due to the amount of tension it created. I always use it on thicker projects of overall 4 oz. layers and up. And as stated previously, it does help the slant on the backside of your work. Some don't care if their stitching slants, but I do. how do you determine spacing? To me it depends on the overall size of the item. Small items demand tighter spacing and smaller thread to keep from looking chunky. Too much thread on too small an article just looks bad to me. I have one set of chisels at 2.7mm and I really like that for watch straps and wallets. For notebooks and such, 3.5mm seems to work really nicely. I have some 5mm chisels which I find helpful on turned bags because if you line the bag you don't see the stitching anyway. how do you determine size of thread? Aesthetics mainly. I know what I like and choose the size of iron and thread accordingly. Nigel Armitage has a great set of reviews on his website in which he recommends what type of thread goes well with each tool reviewed. I don't like chunky stitching. But I don't like seeing too much of the hole either, so it can be a compromise. In general I find myself using 0.6mm and 0.8mm bonded polyester mostly. And yes, when going around corners you want to put a round hole in the corner and measure carefully both directions so the "corner" stitches are identical. If you need to cheat, do it somewhere along the stitch line, but never in the corner where it will be very obvious. Thanks a bunch your comments will save a lot of folk as well as me some thinking that's for sure. I mainly work with holster and sheaths, thick stuff but a guy never knows who may ask for what lol. Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
Members mike02130 Posted December 7, 2021 Members Report Posted December 7, 2021 3 hours ago, chuck123wapati said: I just bought new and good diamond chisels which brought up a question when you get to a corner how do you change the direction of the holes so the stitch sits correctly in it? the slits go from one direction to another is that a problem or an overthink? Quote @mike02130 Instagram
Members Klara Posted December 8, 2021 Members Report Posted December 8, 2021 Decocuir website says A is the right way and I guess we see why.... Quote
Members zuludog Posted December 8, 2021 Members Report Posted December 8, 2021 16 hours ago, chuck123wapati said: I just bought new and good diamond chisels I wonder, if you don't mind, could you tell us what make they are, and why you chose them? 15 hours ago, chuck123wapati said: dang what an easy answer lol. I can do that. I thank you! And I've learned something as well --- Americans really do say 'dang' .......and I thought it was just in the cowboy films! Quote
Members Spyros Posted December 8, 2021 Members Report Posted December 8, 2021 I went to great lengths to achieve the slanted look in the front and back of my stitches... I made 4 different stitching ponies and clams for myself because I couldn't find exactly what I wanted, I watched every video, got a collection of different chisels, I even made a jig with ratchet straps that I use to stretch my bags between the ceiling and the bench clam, so I can stitch pro-per-ly in every single awkward spot. Anyway, I eventually got to a point that I can get my stitches to look any way I like, if I want to. And then one day I was reading a comment by a guy who bought an industrial sewing machine, and the machine had some weird deflection in the needle, which caused his stitches to look slanted, pretty much like hand stitched. And he was furious, complaining everywhere that this is unacceptable, his machine is faulty etc. And then someone told him, look, slanted stitching is actually considered a desirable feature in stitching. And the guy was like "Whaaaaat? Bullshit slanted! I want my stitches straight!". And I got this nervous laughter, and I couldn't stop laughing, because I realised at that moment that I actually agree with the guy, deep down I also always thought that straight stitches look better LOL And now I'm laughing even more because none of us have understood what is the actual question is that we're trying to answer, because the OP asked something about some photos, the photos are nowhere, the OP disappeared, and we're all taking turns saying our thing anyway Quote
CFM chuck123wapati Posted December 8, 2021 CFM Report Posted December 8, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, zuludog said: I wonder, if you don't mind, could you tell us what make they are, and why you chose them? And I've learned something as well --- Americans really do say 'dang' .......and I thought it was just in the cowboy films! sure! they are the fine diamond chisels from Tandy and i bought them because they were 50 % off so i picked up a couple in 3,5mm. they are much better than the off brand ones i was given. I had a set of cheapos from a leather set off amazon that i was given, they were almost square and the tines would bend, i had to straighten them after about four holes lol. So when these came on sale i thought i better get them. 3 hours ago, zuludog said: And I've learned something as well --- Americans really do say 'dang' .......and I thought it was just in the cowboy films! it comes from my folks not allowing me to cuss "damn" would have gotten me slapped upside my head or a mouthful of soap. lol It was quite a common word for kids in my day. Edited December 8, 2021 by chuck123wapati Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
Members Tugadude Posted December 8, 2021 Members Report Posted December 8, 2021 1 hour ago, chuck123wapati said: sure! they are the fine diamond chisels from Tandy and i bought them because they were 50 % off so i picked up a couple in 3,5mm. they are much better than the off brand ones i was given. I had a set of cheapos from a leather set off amazon that i was given, they were almost square and the tines would bend, i had to straighten them after about four holes lol. So when these came on sale i thought i better get them. it comes from my folks not allowing me to cuss "damn" would have gotten me slapped upside my head or a mouthful of soap. lol It was quite a common word for kids in my day. Chuck, I have a set of the Tandy fine diamond 3.5mm irons also and I really like them. I haven't had any issues with them. I didn't polish the tines, but I use a wood block to help pull them out if they get stuck, which is somewhat rare. I posted a topic somewhere on this forum about those irons and the size down from that. Quote
Members zuludog Posted December 8, 2021 Members Report Posted December 8, 2021 That's interesting, I also use those Tandy 3,5mm fine diamond chisels for thin leather, like making wallets. For wider stitching I use Seiwa diamond chisels and Tandy Craftool, with the black finish. I've polished the Seiwa & Tandy Craftool but not the Tandy fine diamond Quote
CFM chuck123wapati Posted December 8, 2021 CFM Report Posted December 8, 2021 58 minutes ago, zuludog said: That's interesting, I also use those Tandy 3,5mm fine diamond chisels for thin leather, like making wallets. For wider stitching I use Seiwa diamond chisels and Tandy Craftool, with the black finish. I've polished the Seiwa & Tandy Craftool but not the Tandy fine diamond I like them but the stitching is a bit close for my holsters problem is 7spi is the widest stitch they come in. I know a lot of folk don't like Tandy stuff but these are nice a bit pricey though IMO. Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
CFM tsunkasapa Posted December 8, 2021 CFM Report Posted December 8, 2021 55 minutes ago, chuck123wapati said: I know a lot of folk don't like Tandy stuff but these are nice a bit pricey though IMO. Tandy is TRYING to dig themselves out of a hole that is a result of years of cheap crap. Whether they succeed remains to be seen. Quote Hoka Hey! Today, tomorrow, next week, what does it matter?
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