CFM Frodo Posted January 27, 2022 CFM Report Posted January 27, 2022 (edited) Cheap, unreliable, will not sew, ETC ETC ETC the rumors fly In this video I sew a continuous stitch 5' long .BUT BUT BUT the bobbin is to small!!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe10cwu2LLc Edited January 27, 2022 by Frodo Quote Singer 66, Chi Chi Patcher, Rex 26-188, singer 29k62 , 2-needles D.C.F.M
Members Squid61 Posted January 27, 2022 Members Report Posted January 27, 2022 It's true with any product costing a tenth of what most would define as "quality", some are going to work out but many if not most are going to be a constant PITA. I get the impression from your video that your patcher is far from out of the box factory stock. Having said that, there are enough posts on the Forum that indicate even the best machines have their moments wasting hours of valuable production time and often a bit of cash as well. At my level of experience and project throughput I'll stick with hand stitching although the wife does have an old treadle Singer stashed away that needs some investigating, if it's a heavy duty model I might try using it. Quote
kgg Posted January 27, 2022 Report Posted January 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Frodo said: In this video I sew a continuous stitch 5' long .BUT BUT BUT the bobbin is to small!!!!! You forgot "Tinkers Delight" as you did make some changes to get it motorized. kgg Quote Juki DNU - 1541S, Juki DU - 1181N, Singer 29K - 71(1949), Chinese Patcher (Tinkers Delight), Warlock TSC-441, Techsew 2750 Pro, Consew DCS-S4 Skiver
Members bj139 Posted January 27, 2022 Members Report Posted January 27, 2022 43 second video . I like to keep my videos to 1 minute. I have a CLSP (Chinese Leather Shoe Patcher) and it sews fine. I fixed some of my shoes. I would buy it again. Quote
Members DrmCa Posted January 27, 2022 Members Report Posted January 27, 2022 A few days back I decided to play a bit more with mine. I messed up everything I possibly could: the upper threading, the bobbin threading, the needle orientation... It tried its best to stitch and even succeeded for 1-2". Once I slapped myself on the forehead and fixed all of that, it began to lay perfect stitches on 2x layers of upholstery leather. It just works. Quote Machines: Mitsubishi DB-130 single needle, Kansai Special RX-9803/UTC coverstitch, Union Special 56300F chainstitch, Pfaff 335-17 cylinder arm walking foot, Bonis Type A fur machine, Huji 43-6 patcher, Singer 99 hand cranked, Juki DDL-553 single needle (for sale)
CFM Frodo Posted January 27, 2022 Author CFM Report Posted January 27, 2022 43 minutes ago, Squid61 said: It's true with any product costing a tenth of what most would define as "quality", some are going to work out but many if not most are going to be a constant PITA. I get the impression from your video that your patcher is far from out of the box factory stock. Having said that, there are enough posts on the Forum that indicate even the best machines have their moments wasting hours of valuable production time and often a bit of cash as well. At my level of experience and project throughput I'll stick with hand stitching although the wife does have an old treadle Singer stashed away that needs some investigating, if it's a heavy duty model I might try using it. Those old singer 66 treadles DO SEW leather, Use a size 20 or 21 leather needle I bought my second 66 couple of months back. It will sew 2 pieces of 6oz with out a problem 32 minutes ago, DrmCa said: A few days back I decided to play a bit more with mine. I messed up everything I possibly could: the upper threading, the bobbin threading, the needle orientation... It tried its best to stitch and even succeeded for 1-2". Once I slapped myself on the forehead and fixed all of that, it began to lay perfect stitches on 2x layers of upholstery leather. It just works. LOL I have spent many an hour cussing my patcher. The tension adjustment will drive you insane till you get the AH HA moment Quote Singer 66, Chi Chi Patcher, Rex 26-188, singer 29k62 , 2-needles D.C.F.M
CFM chuck123wapati Posted January 27, 2022 CFM Report Posted January 27, 2022 Darnit new tires got in my way. But sooner or later i will be tinkering also. Po folk got po ways! Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
Members DrmCa Posted January 27, 2022 Members Report Posted January 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Frodo said: The tension adjustment will drive you insane till you get the AH HA moment For me it was backed out all the way on both tensioners and a little bit more (about 1/4 turn), when it began to stitch perfectly. Quote Machines: Mitsubishi DB-130 single needle, Kansai Special RX-9803/UTC coverstitch, Union Special 56300F chainstitch, Pfaff 335-17 cylinder arm walking foot, Bonis Type A fur machine, Huji 43-6 patcher, Singer 99 hand cranked, Juki DDL-553 single needle (for sale)
CFM Frodo Posted January 27, 2022 Author CFM Report Posted January 27, 2022 35 minutes ago, chuck123wapati said: Darnit new tires got in my way. But sooner or later i will be tinkering also. Po folk got po ways! We used to have a restaurant called "Po' Folks" They had a bumper sticker......... Just now, DrmCa said: For me it was backed out all the way on both tensioners and a little bit more (about 1/4 turn), when it began to stitch perfectly. last week i was using `1 tensioner set about half way. today i am using both almost maxed out Quote Singer 66, Chi Chi Patcher, Rex 26-188, singer 29k62 , 2-needles D.C.F.M
Members DrmCa Posted January 27, 2022 Members Report Posted January 27, 2022 (edited) Did you run the bobbin thread under the tiny little flat spring on the case, on its way from the bottom hole to the top hole? Which holes on the bobbin case did you use - near or far? Edited January 27, 2022 by DrmCa Quote Machines: Mitsubishi DB-130 single needle, Kansai Special RX-9803/UTC coverstitch, Union Special 56300F chainstitch, Pfaff 335-17 cylinder arm walking foot, Bonis Type A fur machine, Huji 43-6 patcher, Singer 99 hand cranked, Juki DDL-553 single needle (for sale)
CFM Frodo Posted January 27, 2022 Author CFM Report Posted January 27, 2022 (edited) use the closest hole if you need more tension use the second hole if you need less tension thread the first hole then into the second hole if you need max tension YES, run the thread under the sp[ring what you are looking at is surface area. the first hole is closest to the screw it will be tighter than the second hole that is farther away from the screw latest modification, needle/halo lift has always been a pita to reach. i moved it to the other side of the machine, The red handle was made by Chuck Edited January 27, 2022 by Frodo Quote Singer 66, Chi Chi Patcher, Rex 26-188, singer 29k62 , 2-needles D.C.F.M
Members DrmCa Posted January 27, 2022 Members Report Posted January 27, 2022 So you are sure that everything is threaded correctly but your patcher still does not stitch? Quote Machines: Mitsubishi DB-130 single needle, Kansai Special RX-9803/UTC coverstitch, Union Special 56300F chainstitch, Pfaff 335-17 cylinder arm walking foot, Bonis Type A fur machine, Huji 43-6 patcher, Singer 99 hand cranked, Juki DDL-553 single needle (for sale)
Members dikman Posted January 27, 2022 Members Report Posted January 27, 2022 Very Heath Robinson-ish pulley setup, Frodo - I love it! Quote Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500. Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)
Members DrmCa Posted January 27, 2022 Members Report Posted January 27, 2022 Only now I noticed that your top-left tensioner's thread guide is upside down from mine. Dunno if it matters but it may be worth trying to rotate it 180 degrees so that it sits above the top tensioner, not below. Quote Machines: Mitsubishi DB-130 single needle, Kansai Special RX-9803/UTC coverstitch, Union Special 56300F chainstitch, Pfaff 335-17 cylinder arm walking foot, Bonis Type A fur machine, Huji 43-6 patcher, Singer 99 hand cranked, Juki DDL-553 single needle (for sale)
CFM Frodo Posted January 28, 2022 Author CFM Report Posted January 28, 2022 5 hours ago, dikman said: Very Heath Robinson-ish pulley setup, Frodo - I love it! Thank you !! If you like that. check out my lamp. do you see the brass lamp switch that has no bulb or shade? that is the on/off switch for the lamp I am into Steam Punk Art Quote Singer 66, Chi Chi Patcher, Rex 26-188, singer 29k62 , 2-needles D.C.F.M
CFM chuck123wapati Posted January 28, 2022 CFM Report Posted January 28, 2022 10 hours ago, Frodo said: Thank you !! If you like that. check out my lamp. do you see the brass lamp switch that has no bulb or shade? that is the on/off switch for the lamp I am into Steam Punk Art Steam punk got its start in redneck engineering. I dont see no duct tape lol. Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
CFM Frodo Posted January 28, 2022 Author CFM Report Posted January 28, 2022 35 minutes ago, chuck123wapati said: Steam punk got its start in redneck engineering. I dont see no duct tape lol. HA !! I have you fooled. No duct tape BUT I have tie wire instead of cotter pins Quote Singer 66, Chi Chi Patcher, Rex 26-188, singer 29k62 , 2-needles D.C.F.M
CFM chuck123wapati Posted January 28, 2022 CFM Report Posted January 28, 2022 19 minutes ago, Frodo said: HA !! I have you fooled. No duct tape BUT I have tie wire instead of cotter pins ahh overengineering I see. lol bend em in the direction opposite of spin so they don't getcha. Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
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