CFM Frodo Posted February 5, 2022 CFM Report Posted February 5, 2022 Quote Singer 66, Chi Chi Patcher, Rex 26-188, singer 29k62 , 2-needles D.C.F.M
CFM chuck123wapati Posted February 5, 2022 CFM Report Posted February 5, 2022 much easier and safer than the drill method Thanks!!! Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
Members Spyros Posted February 5, 2022 Members Report Posted February 5, 2022 To be fair, you did kinda murdered that leather around the hole a little bit LOL Quote
CFM chuck123wapati Posted February 5, 2022 CFM Report Posted February 5, 2022 22 minutes ago, Spyros said: To be fair, you did kinda murdered that leather around the hole a little bit LOL not as bad as when your drill bit slips off the rivet. This is a good topic to converse indeed, Anyone have a better method? Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
Contributing Member fredk Posted February 5, 2022 Contributing Member Report Posted February 5, 2022 Sometimes I hammer a nail pinch down into the centre, but even if I do or not, I wiggle a pair of fine electrical wire cutters between the leather and rivet head and cut the stem with the cutters Quote Al speling misteaks aer all mi own werk..
CFM tsunkasapa Posted February 5, 2022 CFM Report Posted February 5, 2022 I use my Dremel with a small grinding bit. Quote Hoka Hey! Today, tomorrow, next week, what does it matter?
toxo Posted February 5, 2022 Report Posted February 5, 2022 I had to do this yesterday. The best way by far is to center punch the middle of the rivet and use a drill bit the same size as the rivet shank. Quick, clean and simple. The trick is not to press too much else the top part will spin with the drill bit but even then a pair of pliers will suffice to hold it whilst you finish drilling. If done right the rivet will come apart on it's own with no damage to the leather and the hole is no bigger than when you started. Quote
Members Spyros Posted February 5, 2022 Members Report Posted February 5, 2022 1 hour ago, chuck123wapati said: not as bad as when your drill bit slips off the rivet. This is a good topic to converse indeed, Anyone have a better method? Spring loaded center punch before drilling anything metal. Always. Quote
CFM chuck123wapati Posted February 5, 2022 CFM Report Posted February 5, 2022 42 minutes ago, Spyros said: Spring loaded center punch before drilling anything metal. Always. I good rivet remover is what the leather world needs! watch the video if you use a standard center punch you don't need the drill. LOL Problem isn't with a center punched start its with a spinning rivet. I was just saying not arguing. Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
CFM chuck123wapati Posted February 5, 2022 CFM Report Posted February 5, 2022 51 minutes ago, toxo said: I had to do this yesterday. The best way by far is to center punch the middle of the rivet and use a drill bit the same size as the rivet shank. Quick, clean and simple. The trick is not to press too much else the top part will spin with the drill bit but even then a pair of pliers will suffice to hold it whilst you finish drilling. If done right the rivet will come apart on it's own with no damage to the leather and the hole is no bigger than when you started. my standard way of doing it, done it many times also lol. "If done right" doesn't always coincide with murphys law . As you well know friend the old spinning rivet head is the main problem. Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
CFM tsunkasapa Posted February 5, 2022 CFM Report Posted February 5, 2022 44 minutes ago, chuck123wapati said: I good rivet remover is what the leather world needs! C4???? Quote Hoka Hey! Today, tomorrow, next week, what does it matter?
Members DJole Posted February 5, 2022 Members Report Posted February 5, 2022 You mean just biting down and ripping a rivet out with your teeth is not how it's done? Quote \D. Jole \ --> <http://djole.altervista.org/djole/Publications/Leather/Lindex.htm>
Members Dwight Posted February 5, 2022 Members Report Posted February 5, 2022 I use my electrical side cutters . . . for the male piece . . . cut it thru . . . then cut off the top of what is left of the post . . . the rest pulls out . . . no problemo. For the female part . . . gently squeeze the side cutters under the female part . . . just squeeze . . . back off and go at it again 90 degrees from the first time . . . then back where you started . . . then the second place . . . each time adding a little more pressure . . . it'll pop off . . . Never scratch the leather . . . never have any problems at all with it. Drills and dremels can get stuff going . . . burn the leather . . . slide off and mark it up badly . . . side cutters will not do that. May God bless, Dwight Quote If you can breathe, . . . thank God. If you can read, . . . thank a teacher. If you are reading this in English, . . . thank a veteran. www.dwightsgunleather.com
Members Spyros Posted February 6, 2022 Members Report Posted February 6, 2022 ΙMO if there was an easy way to remove a rivet without damaging the leather, then this only really means one thing: your rivets are cheap crap or they haven't been set properly... Quote
CFM Frodo Posted February 6, 2022 Author CFM Report Posted February 6, 2022 I n agree with Dwight. drill bits and Dremel's burn the leather or actually the rivet gets hot and burns the leather Quote Singer 66, Chi Chi Patcher, Rex 26-188, singer 29k62 , 2-needles D.C.F.M
Members Spyros Posted February 6, 2022 Members Report Posted February 6, 2022 It will burn the leather if you let the rivet spin because it got fused with the drill bit, but you shouldn't let that happen. Basically you're not trying to drill through the rivet as such, all you're trying to do is remove some material from the base of the rivet until you release the stem. And you do that by drilling at some angle and without too much pressure, and changing the angle frequently. You want to see metal shavings coming out from the tip of your drill bit, and it shouldn't go in more than half a mm at a time. Need a sharp drill bit too. Trust me I'm the world champion at setting rivets in the wrong places Quote
CFM chuck123wapati Posted February 6, 2022 CFM Report Posted February 6, 2022 20 hours ago, tsunkasapa said: C4???? lol now you know that's for fishin not rivet pullin. Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
CFM tsunkasapa Posted February 6, 2022 CFM Report Posted February 6, 2022 2 hours ago, chuck123wapati said: lol now you know that's for fishin not rivet pullin. I seem to recall it took quite a few rivets out of a tank one time. Quote Hoka Hey! Today, tomorrow, next week, what does it matter?
CFM chuck123wapati Posted February 6, 2022 CFM Report Posted February 6, 2022 6 minutes ago, tsunkasapa said: I seem to recall it took quite a few rivets out of a tank one time. I'll bet it did! Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
Contributing Member Samalan Posted February 11, 2022 Contributing Member Report Posted February 11, 2022 I use tooth extraction pliers they grab even when the rivet head is just below the surface then I drill the pliers make it so the rivet cant spin haven't burnt any leather yet also I use them to tighten screw backs If I was to lose this tool I would get another pair that's for sure. Quote
CFM chuck123wapati Posted February 11, 2022 CFM Report Posted February 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Samalan said: I use tooth extraction pliers they grab even when the rivet head is just below the surface then I drill the pliers make it so the rivet cant spin haven't burnt any leather yet also I use them to tighten screw backs If I was to lose this tool I would get another pair that's for sure. Hey that's a good idea and i have some. Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
Members JayEhl Posted February 11, 2022 Members Report Posted February 11, 2022 Hi, This thread interested me because recently (okay, more times than recent) I've had to remove a rivet and learned the hard way that it was easy to damage the leather and I had to be more careful. I generally used what @Dwight detailed and it does work for me, but I'm always looking for better ways to do things. I had to go online to see what an extraction pliers looked like but those all over the map. Is this more of a 'heavy duty' set of pliers like this? or may I ask if someone post a picture of what they're using? Quote
Contributing Member Samalan Posted February 11, 2022 Contributing Member Report Posted February 11, 2022 4 hours ago, JayEhl said: Hi, This thread interested me because recently (okay, more times than recent) I've had to remove a rivet and learned the hard way that it was easy to damage the leather and I had to be more careful. I generally used what @Dwight detailed and it does work for me, but I'm always looking for better ways to do things. I had to go online to see what an extraction pliers looked like but those all over the map. Is this more of a 'heavy duty' set of pliers like this? or may I ask if someone post a picture of what they're using? go to Amazon you want Dental Mead Forceps MD2 Molar tooth extracting model# MD2 part#MD2. Quote
Members JayEhl Posted February 11, 2022 Members Report Posted February 11, 2022 interesting.. .... but without going to the evil zon, for $13 for a dental tool is there something similar that could be found in regular hardware stores? Quote
Members Jaxx1024 Posted September 16, 2022 Members Report Posted September 16, 2022 On 2/5/2022 at 8:38 AM, fredk said: Sometimes I hammer a nail pinch down into the centre, but even if I do or not, I wiggle a pair of fine electrical wire cutters between the leather and rivet head and cut the stem with the cutters I use wire cutters. No mess. Quote
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