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Since I can't afford a sewing machine, I plan to buy a good awl. I am thinking about a Barry King handle and Osborne awls. I am wondering what size awl and needles I should get. I will use it for cantle bindings, skirts, etc. Thanks for any advice. Randy
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First Saddle - 15-1/2" Wood Post Will James
rktaylor replied to thecowboy7's topic in Saddle & Tack Maker Gallery
David, Congrats on the first saddle. It really looks great. Maybe some of the experts can find some mistakes, but I couldn't. I want to build one on a Will James tree so I appreciate the chance to see yours. Do you have a shop in Fredonia? I haven't been through there in ages. I went to college with a guy who used to teach ag there. Randy -
Thanks for sharing this idea. I think my is going to wonder where all the flatware went.
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Ron, Thanks for the update. It looks like you are making some progress. The swell cover looks really clean over the top of the riggings. Some say they go over and some say they go under. Probably won't start a fight like the idea of all leather vs. metal strainers on a ground seat though. I just want to soak up as much information as possible so I can decide what I prefer. The first ride is not too far off. Probably closer than spring for you. Randy
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Thanks Ron. I fixed the pattern.
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I am drawing fender patterns by using the saddle I intend to use as a model. I understand that the fenders likely do not have their original shape. Should my fender pattern line up at the top and bottom? If so, which end is wrong? Thanks, Randy
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Ron L: I got my first tree from Batie's Custom Tree in Welch, OK. I have read a lot of posts about trees since then. I thought the tree was alright, but saw better ones at the Wichita Falls Saddle Show. I guess you don't know what you don't know. Cost for me is still a factor. Saddle #2 will be similar to this barrel saddle. It is lightweight and comfortable. My wife and daughter fight over it (can't have that). I plan to order a BWBR tree from Batie's to start. I finished the JW video last night. It was very good and I think it will help me think through the design of this saddle. The saddle will just be for pleasure riding, so weight is a primary factor. Goldshot: Thanks very much for all your tips and comments. I find them extremely valuable. Synthesizing information from multiple sources is challenging, but necessary. Thanks for chiming in. Randy
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That looks great. I appreciate getting to follow your progress. I am resisting the urge to jump into my second one. I need to have a good plan first, but I think I will order a tree tomorrow. Randy
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RDL, Goldshot Ron said to buy theJeremiah Watt DVD and get e new perspective on saddle making. I watched the first 4 hours last night. The wife has plans tonight so I'll watch the second DVD. While it will take some time to absorb it all, it is very impressive. It's based on a Wade saddle, which I doubt I would build. However, the way he goes through the process, I think I could build anything. He really helps you understand how a saddle goes together. After I watch all of it, I will likely post a review on the DVD thread. Once I get my new drawdown stand and shop area done, I am starting on #2. Jeremiah says you should be working on at least two at the same time, but I am not sure I could cash flow that so I will stick with one at a time for now. Randy
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I ordered a tree from Batie's last year and it took more than 10 weeks. They were always nice when I called, but were constantly putting me off (I think it will ship Friday). It was my first tree, so I didn't know what to expect. I was thinking about ordering another. If they're that far behind, I better get it placed.
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rdl, I agree with Goldshot. Get it like you want even if it costs extra money. I made a lot of mistakes on my first saddle and kept going in most cases because I didn't know it was a mistake or I didn't want to start over (though I did completely redo my seat). However, I knew I would be building a second saddle and viewed the first one as educational (I mostly learn by doing). My first saddle will likely be on a rack and used sparingly a year from now and I will be riding a new one. One mistake that I made was not doing a good enough job blocking my skirts. I won't make it again. Have you cut your hand hole yet? Thanks for continuing to share your progress. Randy
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Thanks. I remember seeing that now. Its not exactly the style I am looking for, but at least it's a start.
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I am looking for a pommel bag pattern. I have canvas bags I could use for the general shape and photos of leather bags for ideas, but would like a better starting point if possible.
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Stef, It looks pretty good to me for a first effort. I just finished my first one a couple weeks ago. I have about 4 majors errors, maybe more if I keep looking. However, none of them are deal breakers, they are just reminders of places to improve. But at least it is comfortable. I really like the style of you saddle and want to build my wife one that is similar. It will just be for trail riding, but I like the barrel saddle design. It must be light, so I appreciate your comments. Where did you get your pattern? Most of it I think I can figure out, but I have been struggling with the in skirt rigging. Everything I think of just gets heavier. Thanks for the feedback. Randy
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The Dusty Johnson book says skirts should be no longer than 29". Is the back of the cantle tooled? Your ground seat looks great.
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Ron, That looks lower than mine, but I think my plate is too high. It cinched up just fine, but I feel like there is room for improvement. Congratulations on the progress. Randy
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Ron L. I hand stitched everything. If I bought a sewing machine, my wife would get it in the divorce. I used a jig similar to the one in Dusty Johnson's book. However there is a really good discussion about rigging placement in one of these threads. I need to review it again. Ron, I have done some tooling, but not a lot. I did some leatherwork when I got out of high school, but just got back into it a couple years ago (about a 30 year layoff). Keep in mind that I took the pictures. There are some areas that are better than others. I was more interested in construction on this saddle than tooling. My next one will have more. Thanks for the compliments. Randy
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You asked about time. Its hard to measure because I have a full time job and family already. I got my tree around the second week of September and finished last week. However, there were three weeks straight that I didn't touch it. Plus I stood around scratching my head a lot. I have about $1k invested in materials and another grand in labor if I got paid 50 cents an hour.
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rdl123 Here are some photos of my saddle. It is based off Dusty Johnson's patterns I have his package (book, video and patterns) and Volumes I and II of Al Stohlman's books. I started with that and a general lack of common sense. I learned more than I care to type right now, but I am done and it is really comfortable to ride. It is a Bowman tree from Batie's Custom Tree in Welch, OK. The leather is all Hermann Oak. There are several mistakes, but none were 'deal breakers' for me. Plus, now that I know what they are, I can avoid them on #2. I have a friend who will buy the materials, so I get another shot at it. Plus I want to build one for my wife. She would probably rather have furniture, but what the hell. Stay warm. Artic air is moving our way tonight, but you would probably think its spring weather. Randy
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Here is the photo I promised. Thanks for the backgrond information. The number on the latigo holder is 444421615 if that means anything.
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Thanks very much. I will post a picture tomorrow. I live about 50 miles from Chandler, so I bet you are right.
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Can anyone provide some history on this saddle. I bought it at a garage sale and really like it. It is a very solid saddle. I will definitely keep it as a backup to my new saddle.
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Once I am finished, I plan to post some pictures and a recap of the project (time, cost, mistakes, what I learned, etc).
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Thanks for the update. I hope to finish my first saddle this weekend. Then I am going for a ride.