Members Tugadude Posted November 8, 2022 Members Report Posted November 8, 2022 31 minutes ago, genesis said: Red can is a totally different formula orders of magnitude stronger. Stronger than what? The Weldwood you mentioned or Barge? Quote
Members Burkhardt Posted November 8, 2022 Members Report Posted November 8, 2022 16 minutes ago, dannyd said: I have used both for years and both will do the job, but because I moved my leather working to an air conditioned room switched to Aquilim 315. It works as good as Barge or Weldwood but not flammable and no stink. So I would use which ever is easier to find. Weld-wood is evolved from Formica 140 cement. Love how easy it is to spread, how quick it sets up and if it gets a little thick just add water. Quote
Members Tugadude Posted November 8, 2022 Members Report Posted November 8, 2022 41 minutes ago, genesis said: Red can is a totally different formula orders of magnitude stronger. Stronger than what? The Weldwood you mentioned or Barge? I went to DAP's website to look at their various contact adhesives and from what little they publish in their technical data sheets, the biggest difference I could ascertain was that the landau adhesive has a much longer open time, 2 hours compared to 20 minutes for the original formula. The main answer to the OPs question is answered by their own statements made about working in the automotive industry. I'm sure this adhesive is common to anyone in that industry. I'm not in that industry and despite the fact I have had a lot of experience with various adhesives, including working for manufacturers of same, I'd never run across it. Doesn't mean it isn't the bee's knees. Quote
Members Dwight Posted November 9, 2022 Members Report Posted November 9, 2022 I have stayed away from Barge . . . based on the simple fact that if applied correctly . . . Weldwood cannot be pulled apart. If you believe you have succeeded . . . take another look. You pulled fibers of leather off both pieces . . . in effect . . . ripping the leather apart. Barge cannot do any better than that . . . period. Reading the MSDS for Barge . . . . that stuff ain't coming in my shop. May God bless, Dwight Quote If you can breathe, . . . thank God. If you can read, . . . thank a teacher. If you are reading this in English, . . . thank a veteran. www.dwightsgunleather.com
CFM tsunkasapa Posted November 9, 2022 CFM Report Posted November 9, 2022 39 minutes ago, Tugadude said: The main answer to the OPs question is answered by their own statements made about working in the automotive industry. I'm sure this adhesive is common to anyone in that industry. I'm not in that industry and despite the fact I have had a lot of experience with various adhesives, including working for manufacturers of same, I'd never run across it. Doesn't mean it isn't the bee's knees. Exactly. I've used many contact adsives in 45 years of building, but never heard of this one. Can't use something if you don't know it exists. Quote Hoka Hey! Today, tomorrow, next week, what does it matter?
Contributing Member Samalan Posted November 9, 2022 Contributing Member Report Posted November 9, 2022 13 hours ago, genesis said: Thats a blanket statement i cant go with. I am interested in barge if its actually better for this purpose, but considering it seems to be a tossup between its strength and red can weldwood, i cant say thats a shining recommendation. I buy the weldwood im referring to in 5 gallon cans, so its most certainly worth "looking into" for me. Im sorry you dont feel as such. If barge works for you, great, but that was an off the cuff comment that was of no help. The blanket off the cuff comment as you call it , was I in M my H humble O Opinion IMHO sorry it didn't help I have ben using contact cement for more than 50 years in Industry and for home use that helped form that "opinion" now that does not make me correct it only means I have some knowledge of contact cement and truly was just trying to help. Quote
Members Tugadude Posted November 9, 2022 Members Report Posted November 9, 2022 I suggest we all take a deep breath and ratchet the heat down a bit. After all, we're talking about adhesive here, don't let it tear us apart! See, a little humor goes a long way. The OPs response to Samalan was unwaranted. Take advice or don't. Take feedback or don't. No need to make it personal. Kindness goes a long way. When someone gives an honest answer, even if it is off-topic or "wrong" in your opinion, take it for what it is and move on. Makes things a lot simpler and more fun. Quote
Members Chakotay Posted November 9, 2022 Members Report Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) 15 hours ago, dannyd said: I have used both for years and both will do the job, but because I moved my leather working to an air conditioned room switched to Aquilim 315. It works as good as Barge or Weldwood but not flammable and no stink. So I would use which ever is easier to find. Weld-wood is evolved from Formica 140 cement. ^ This 100%. Aquilim 315 is the only glue I use anymore. You can see me using it all the time on my YouTube channel. Previously bought Barge and Weldwood simply because those were easily available at Home Depot and Lowes. Aquilim is more expensive, and you have to order it online from Germany, but for me the fact that it's water-based, non-toxic, and low-oder more than offsets the health risks associated with the high-VOC stuff. I was getting headaches brushing on the other glues. I found it's plenty strong for everything I've thrown at it. But I use it almost exclusively for gluing liners . . . which all get stitched anyway . . . so how strong does it really need to be? Edited November 9, 2022 by Chakotay Quote
Members Chakotay Posted November 9, 2022 Members Report Posted November 9, 2022 33 minutes ago, Tugadude said: I suggest we all take a deep breath and ratchet the heat down a bit. Just don't take a deep breath of Barge or Weldwood! lol Quote
Members Tugadude Posted November 9, 2022 Members Report Posted November 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, Chakotay said: Just don't take a deep breath of Barge or Weldwood! lol True! Quote
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