New Member and mystery machine

[piningforfjords]

Hi and thanks for this site.  It is a great resource for people navigating the world of industrial sewing machines.  Figure I read enough here that I  should join up and also I had a question I was having difficulty with.  I don't think there is a better place to ask.  I have come into an industrial walking foot sewing machine.  It has triple material feed (needle feed).  Seems to have the oversized U bobbin as well.  It had been languishing on marketplace for a long time.  The owner just needed to get rid of it.  He got it for free from a relative that was going to trash it.  Looked like a Pfaff to me from the sales photos but it has been repainted and "rebranded" at some point.  Limited test run and seems to run find but haven't had thread in it yet.  I have since realized it is in a family of similar machines Juki 563/Consew 226 {others?).  I haven't found a brand/example that has the serial number as a brass plate on the lower right.  I would like to figure out make / model to find a manual and potentially some parts.  How interchangeable are the parts between these various machines?  

Tom

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Edited April 10, 2023 by piningforfjords
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[kgg]

52 minutes ago, piningforfjords said:

I would like to figure out make / model to find a manual and potentially some parts. 

To me it looks like a Singer 111W. First I thought it maybe a Juki but the only machines that come to mind with the serial numbers embedded into the machines bed were the Singers.

kgg

[piningforfjords]

Thanks.  That makes a lot of sense and yes the model appears quite close.  It kind of surprises me.  Some speculation on my part but appears Goldsworthy was a local company selling this model and trying to make money selling the parts as well.  I have an envelope of needles that has the Goldsworthy brand and recommendation to only use genuine replacement parts.  With such a well known brand I would expect customers in the industry to know what was going on.

Edit:  It doesn't look like any of the 111W variants had reverse.  But the serial number pretty solidly makes it look like a Singer.

Edited April 10, 2023 by piningforfjords
quick update

[dikman]

I'd agree with it being a Singer 111. Trying to figure out exactly which model can be tricky as they tend to look alike!

It looks like it might be fitted with a piping foot?

[Northmount]

@piningforfjords Moved your post to leather sewing machines.

PLEASE post your photos here.  3rd party hosted photos often disappear due to changes in the host's policies, going out of business, owner moving or deleting photos.  Then the thread becomes useless to anyone researching or interested in the topic.  If your photos are too big, use a file resizer to reduce the file size.

 

[AlZilla]

That lever on the right side ought to be a clue. Doesn't tell ME anything, but maybe someone.

[piningforfjords]

I would agree everything points to a 111 but the only thing that doesn't fit is the reverse pedal and looking underneath (which is painted Singer black) the reverse mechanism is mounted to two cast pillars that aren't used by anything else.  Unless there is a 111 that lists that feature it has to be another model/submodel.  Just a mystery at this point I am sure I can use parts/manuals from the other machines.  I am going to look at some other indicators like the max presser foot height and the maximum stitch length because those seem to be the things that differentiate these other models.  Will resize and post the pictures.  The reason I posted links is when I first tried to create a post it was asking for link since I wasn't a member at that point.  So I created the links.  Will also spend a bit more time investigating.  I thought it would be an easier id but this has helped me a lot.

   Yes it is a piping foot.  You can see a reel of piping in the background.  That came with the machine as well as a table, clutch motor, needles and half filled bobbins.

[piningforfjords]

Seems the Singer 111G156 has reverse just not the style of handle seen on my machine (found on this site).  I will keep the quest up for an exact match but I figure enough of the mystery is resolved.  Well report back if I find anything definitive.

[Constabulary]

No Singer serial number IMO - I´d say Consew 226 or Seiko STW-8B

[kgg]

2 hours ago, piningforfjords said:

Seems the Singer 111G156 has reverse just not the style of handle seen on my machine (found on this site). 

I took another look at your photo's. The side photo where the one with Goldsworthy's tag is visible shows two small holes in the casing just under the "G and the "S". Which indicates a name tag placement. In this case it would be for the "CONSEW". Also from that you can figure it was a Consew 226 which used the Singer 111W155 casing. A reference video would be " Consew 226 Everything You Ever Wanted to Know about this walking foot industrial sewing machine " ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBF0ECECi4c).

The Consew 226 or Seiko STW-8B and if I'm not mistake the Juki 563 are based on the Singer 111W155 casing.

In your last photo there appears to be lettering and numbering stamped into the presser foot bar which may help determine if they are Singer parts.

 

kgg

 

Edited April 11, 2023 by kgg