Members Adonis Posted September 29, 2023 Members Report Posted September 29, 2023 The Leather SAP Slapjack or paperweight, bookweight is a device measuring 8 1/2" long and weighing 547 grams making it a nice paperweight or bookweight. You can use it simply as paper or book weight, or decide like many people to carry one in your vehicle, pocket, or purse. The leather used: WATER BUFFALO Veg-tanned Shoulder with a beautiful grain brought out by infused waxes and oils. ► 4 Layers of Premium full-grain WATER BUFFALO Veg-tanned Shoulder ► - 2 layers of 5 – 6 oz (2.0 – 2.4 mm) ► - 2 layers of 3 – 4 oz (1.2 - 1.6 mm) ► Length 8. 1/2" ► Weight 547 Grams ► Head width 2 3/4" https://www.adonisleather.com/product-page/leather-sap-7-5-impact-device-slapjacks-sap-blackjack-paper-weight Quote https://www.adonisleather.com/
Members bigsig11010 Posted September 29, 2023 Members Report Posted September 29, 2023 Very nice. I'm working on something similar now. I'm on 3rd attempt with first two in the scrap pile. Lol thanks for sharing. Quote
Members Tastech Posted September 30, 2023 Members Report Posted September 30, 2023 I remember seeing them in cartoons 50 years ago ,i didn't realize they actually existed or what they were called . now i want one . I could have used it on a shop lifter yesterday .Instead i cracked him in the head with the heel of a boot i was repairing at the time . Quote
kgg Posted September 30, 2023 Report Posted September 30, 2023 3 hours ago, Tastech said: I could have used it on a shop lifter yesterday .Instead i cracked him in the head with the heel of a boot i was repairing at the time . That should leave a reminder particularly if the boot had a metal heel plate. kgg Quote Juki DNU - 1541S, Juki DU - 1181N, Singer 29K - 71(1949), Chinese Patcher (Tinkers Delight), Warlock TSC-441, Techsew 2750 Pro, Consew DCS-S4 Skiver
CFM tsunkasapa Posted September 30, 2023 CFM Report Posted September 30, 2023 Be aware that these are illegal in MANY jurisdictions. I would check before carrying one around. Quote Hoka Hey! Today, tomorrow, next week, what does it matter?
CFM chuck123wapati Posted September 30, 2023 CFM Report Posted September 30, 2023 28 minutes ago, tsunkasapa said: Be aware that these are illegal in MANY jurisdictions. I would check before carrying one around. i agree they are considered a deadly weapon, a boot is considered a boot. Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
kgg Posted September 30, 2023 Report Posted September 30, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, tsunkasapa said: Be aware that these are illegal in MANY jurisdictions. These depend on the laws of the Country/ State or Province and maybe illegal no matter how they are dressed up to look like or function as something else. Check your laws before carrying one. The best is an improvised weapon like a good old fashion H2 pencil. kgg Edited September 30, 2023 by kgg Quote Juki DNU - 1541S, Juki DU - 1181N, Singer 29K - 71(1949), Chinese Patcher (Tinkers Delight), Warlock TSC-441, Techsew 2750 Pro, Consew DCS-S4 Skiver
Members dikman Posted September 30, 2023 Members Report Posted September 30, 2023 13 hours ago, Tastech said: I remember seeing them in cartoons 50 years ago ,i didn't realize they actually existed or what they were called . now i want one . I could have used it on a shop lifter yesterday .Instead i cracked him in the head with the heel of a boot i was repairing at the time . Here in SA I can guarantee you would be arrested if you had one. Quote Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500. Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)
Members Tastech Posted October 1, 2023 Members Report Posted October 1, 2023 8 hours ago, dikman said: Here in SA I can guarantee you would be arrested if you had one. I think i would be charged for it here in Canberra as well , But then again our cops are useless these days . Given that at any one time i have in my apron a couple of knives an awl and a cobblers hammer, Getting black jacked could be considered the lenient option . 45 years ago while working as a paper boy on a street corner i would carry my coins in a sock that i could swing around to deter anyone who thought i might be an easy mark .With the coins in the sock you could argue plausible deniability however with a black jack maybe not ,as it does not have a duel purpose. But having said that how much damage could a black jack actually do ? Apart from stunning someone i don't think you could kill someone with it unless you were a blackjack ninja. I am going to do a bit of research and ask some of my police customers what their thoughts are . BTW the same shoplifter/druggo stole the tip jar from the cafe next door earlier in the week . I have printed out a still photo of him from the security footage and turned it into a wanted poster and put in up in the arcade . I await his next move . Quote
Members Tastech Posted October 1, 2023 Members Report Posted October 1, 2023 An Update . After a bit if internet research i learned some interesting things Saps and black jacks are available for sale from Amazon , Etsy and Ebay . Patterns are also available . I found an article that gives a general rundown of different types from different makers .article below https://www.recoilweb.com/striking-distance-143325.html Upon searching the legality of such things in Australia i came across a list of illegal items but the blackjack is not specifically listed . this is the closest reference i could find Quote "Sap glove, or any other similar article, that consists of a glove (including a fingerless glove) that has a layer of powdered lead sewn under the outer covering and positioned over the knuckle area on the back of the glove. US members might find the web page where i got this quote very interesting . Some might die laughing and some might cry . Keep in mind in Australia we have nothing resembling the second amendment rights of the US. We have had to master the art of bare knuckle fighting instead . However i am still attracted to the idea of a black jack to even the odds . I would love to hear what the US members think of these laws The laws are in the link below https://www.criminaldefencelawyers.com.au/blog/weapons-licensing-laws-in-australia/ I did an image search for the cartoon /comic character with a striped shirt and black mask holding a black jack but nothing came up. Quote
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