What is Mycelium Leather? Does it exist?

[chuck123wapati]

10 minutes ago, Littlef said:

wow, 3 gallons of Tallow would keep me stocked for black powder for a long long time.

oh yea i have a gallon bucket i rendered a few years ago just for patch lube and the six shooters, i mix a bit of bees wax to thicken it a tad.

[chuck123wapati]

2 minutes ago, Handstitched said:

Fungi ? Whats his name ?  lol, sorry its late , almost my bed time. 

 

Shhhhh...  just don't tell the vegans  

So love to try an Elk steak with mushrooms and onions on the barby , with a nice red wine 

HS

my chokecherry/ service berry wine has the most awesome taste  it partners with elk steaks like peas and carrots lol. comes from the same country too.

Sautee your rooms and onions, mix in the pan drippings from the steaks add a touch of choke cherry wine and simmer together a bit then drizzle over that nice rare chunk of heaven!!! 

I would post a pic but it would just be torture for you lol. 

[Littlef]

31 minutes ago, chuck123wapati said:

oh yea i have a gallon bucket i rendered a few years ago just for patch lube and the six shooters, i mix a bit of bees wax to thicken it a tad.

I do the same, mix tallow and bees wax.  In the winter I might add a bit of olive oil if the mix is too hard in the colder temps.

[Sheilajeanne]

Those idiot PETA members want to totally eliminate ALL domestic animals. I really scratch my head when I try to understand just what they think the world will look like if we do this. Wild cows, sheep, goats and pigs just wandering around, munching on the vegan's precious crops? LOL. I think that would make a lot of vegans change their minds about killing animals! Obviously, if people stopped eating meat, no one in their right mind is going to continue to feed their farm animals until they just die of old age. What would be the point? You're spending money on animal feed, and getting absolutely no return for it. Not feeding them would mean letting them starve once they'd chewed their pasture down to the grassroots. Sooo...the obvious solution would be to open the gates and let them go. Or shoot them. But, of course, a vegan isn't going to do that. 

As for going back to the 'good old days' I'm totally for living off the land, growing and harvesting your own food. But I also appreciate popping into the local grocery store to buy a chicken that I don't have to kill, pluck and eviscerate all on my own! My grandmother did exactly that, so I appreciate the hard work that goes into it, and am glad to have a machine do it for me.

My late husband had friends who lived on a tract of land near Toronto which had never been clear cut. They had trilliums popping up in their lawn, like weeds! They gave me permission to go into the wooded section of their property and dig up a couple to take home. Cutting into that virgin soil was like cutting into living tissue. The web of roots was so strong, I needed a very sharp spade to cut around the flower and uproot it. The roots stayed intact, in a square, just as I'd cut them. It really was amazing to see!

I've also seen pictures of the soil structure of grassland prairie that's never been plowed. The grass roots go down more than 3 feet into the earth.

It makes me wish I could have seen this country before the Europeans arrived. The untouched prairie and forest would have been so much more efficient at preventing erosion and catching and filtering rainwater into the ground. Rivers were deeper and had larger, healthier populations of fish and other creatures because of this. 

We can't bring back what once was. But I'm all for preserving small sections of the forest, prairie and mountains in their natural state, so people can see and understand what a healthy, untouched ecosystem really looks like. 

An interesting note: in grassland prairies that have been preserved in their natural state, they stay healthier and the native species thrive better when the land is grazed by cattle. Of course, the original grazers would have been bison and antelopes. 

 

Edited November 15, 2023 by Sheilajeanne

[SUP]

@Sheilajeanne you are so right. Vegans have not really thought so far, have they? Most just talk a lot about things that sound good to them. I don't think most of them wonder whether what they want is plausible. 

Living off the land is what more and more people seem to want to do. Earth ships, for example. Not surprising. After a while, all this materialism is tiring.  Hopefully those who do go back, will not destroy the original flora and fauna in the process. Sometimes, clueless well-meaning people do more harm than good.

And preserving the original lands.. I wish I could see that. Here,  there is a lot of greenery but very little is the original vegetation. There surely are tracts of untouched lands all over the country. I hope they remain hidden and safe and are preserved. Our descendants deserve to see as you say, what a healthy, untouched landscape really looks like.

Veganism is not easy to do just off the bat or by reading about it online. I  know so many vegans with terrible health problems because of their diet.  They seem to do very little that is right, long term. 

I lived my entire childhood and youth as a vegan and did not even know until I came to the US. But our diet was developed over centuries and is well balanced - all the proteins, carbs, minerals etc. included in the balanced meals.  Of course,  my doctor  is delighted and suggested I go back to it.. She took down all the information carefully and is probably encouraging others to eat similarly. She is right. I am much more active and alert since going back to it, for the most part. I cannot resist a good barbecue (learnt to like when living in the mid-west) or burger once in a while though.

 

[Sheilajeanne]

Sup, would be interested to know what your diet was like. Where did you grow up? The Mediterranean diet has been found to be very healthy, based on natural foods like olives, grapes, and of course, pasta and wine, but it's not really vegan.

This tract of forest I mentioned is a park, and is protected from being cut by the government. Environmental groups are fighting hard to maintain the remaining patches of old growth forests, especially the ones on the west coast of Canada, as well as the few remaining native tall and short grass prairies. 

Edited November 15, 2023 by Sheilajeanne

[chuck123wapati]

1 hour ago, Sheilajeanne said:

 

We can't bring back what once was

 

 

don't worry mother earth is millions of years old if not billions she will bring her self back we just wont be here when she does.

 My freezer is half full of delicious greens that are considered weeds and they are more nutritious than most gmo veggies. Literally people pull these out of their gardens and destroy them. Being a good steward of the land, and our own health and wisdom, suggests we become more learned on what is edible food and how to use it. So much traditional knowledge has been lost in the falsehoods we are taught from birth that science has all the right answers. They modify food to be easier to pick , more uniform and to sell not to be healthier. 

My 5th grade science teacher explained the earth as a giant petri dish. It will grow anything to its fullest if one thing dies off then another takes its place there is no end to it until the food supply is gone. If they kill all the cattle because they fart then deer, rabbits, rats, mice or whatever will take up the space and continue to thrive and eat and fart until they exhaust the food supply or are thinned out by other animals. Its a simple concept to understand but is totally ignored by those with an agenda of preaching environmentalism. Plastic is the elephant in the room that we are not allowed to talk about, why because its a product of science, you wont see leather shoes floating in the pacific for years.

 

[SUP]

@Sheilajeanne I grew up in Mumbai, India. My  family was very strictly vegetarian, which meant dairy but no eggs. Our meals were always very structured, as are most Indian meals - vegetables, lentils/pulses, rice/chapati and curds/milk at every meal - everything always freshly made. Desserts rarely, except for fruit. These essentially covered all the nutrient requirements.  But then, I realized I was allergic to milk  - so I became truly vegan while everyone else continued to be vegetarian. My mother cooked more greens, beans etc. to ensure I had sufficient Calcium growing up. My mother and I had meats rarely, maybe once every few months. We couldn't eat more even if we wanted to do so - didn't feel like it. 

This diet is what my doctor is enamoured of. For vegetarians,  we made our curds at home, It was always live cultures - so great for the digestion as well. 

Indians have not much talked about their own food all these years. What is available everywhere as Indian food like butter chicken and lassi with lots of ghee and butter,  is mostly the  food eaten by North Indian farmers - they needed those calories in the past, but no one needs them now! Anyway, that is not what people eat day to day. Rather like no one lives off barbecue and lobster daily.

I know there are protected parks here as well. I hope they continue to be protected. Keeping my fingers crossed that no politician finds that protected lands have oils or other valuables  to dig for.

Sometimes I wonder at people.  I just read an article where some people are thinking of not killing the mycelia completely while making mycelium leather so that it can '"heal itself" if damaged. So they think the mycelia will obey and grow only when directed and otherwise remain dormant. Even if they found a way, I'm not sure I would want to use leather than can come alive. That's just me though.

 

 

 

[purplefox66]

I am a member of peta.

People eating tasty animals 

[Sheilajeanne]

47 minutes ago, SUP said:

Indians have not much talked about their own food all these years. What is available everywhere as Indian food like butter chicken and lassi with lots of ghee and butter,  is mostly the  food eaten by North Indian farmers - they needed those calories in the past, but no one needs them now! Anyway, that is not what people eat day to day. Rather like no one lives off barbecue and lobster daily.

Yes, just like what is sold as Chinese food in most of North America is not at all what the Chinese actually eat! They eat much more vegetables and less meat. Some of the vegetables are things North Americans wouldn't touch, like lotus roots.

SUP, yes, that sounds really crazy! 

Chuck, yes, as one species dies off, others take over. Nature abhors a vacuum. The changes in vegetation and animal life is how biologists know the climate is warming up. I've seen this during my own lifetime - we never used to have opossums in Ontario, as it was too cold for them. Their ears, tails and feet freeze in really cold weather. Now, in the last 30 years or so, they have established breeding populations here. Other species that have moved in within my lifetime are mourning doves and turkey vultures, though they are mostly migratory. But the same thing goes for them - mourning doves' feet freeze easily in sub-zero weather, and the vulture's naked legs and head make them vulnerable to freezing too. I've frequently seen mourning doves with only one foot as a result of having lost one to freezing. Guess they didn't head south early enough!

Edited November 15, 2023 by Sheilajeanne