Members Klara Posted November 17, 2023 Members Report Posted November 17, 2023 16 hours ago, kgg said: ... To make any substantial changes we would have to reset the global population lifestyle to that of the cavemen. Can't see that happening anytime soon. ... The alternative would be to get numbers back to cavemen. For overpopulation is the biggest problem. Which, funnily enough, has been known for 40 years at least (that's when I saw the documentary on German TV), but nobody's been doing anything about. As for climate change and scientists, I strongly recommend the afterword to Michael Crichton's State of Fear. The book is one of his worse ones (though it does explain why governments have a vested interest in making people afraid), but the afterword should be required reading for everybody. Quote
Members SUP Posted November 17, 2023 Members Report Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) My great grand-mother used to say that each time there is an excess load on earth, nature auto-corrects with natural disasters and pandemics until balance is restored. Seems to be the path we are on now, whatever the rhetoric. Maybe we should all remember the wisdom of our ancestors. Nature always auto-corrects - and we are just another animal, never mind our arrogance in thinking we are special. We are not and are as dispensable as the dinosaurs. Edited November 17, 2023 by SUP Quote Learning is a life-long journey.
CFM chuck123wapati Posted November 17, 2023 CFM Report Posted November 17, 2023 3 hours ago, Klara said: The alternative would be to get numbers back to cavemen. For overpopulation is the biggest problem. Which, funnily enough, has been known for 40 years at least (that's when I saw the documentary on German TV), but nobody's been doing anything about. As for climate change and scientists, I strongly recommend the afterword to Michael Crichton's State of Fear. The book is one of his worse ones (though it does explain why governments have a vested interest in making people afraid), but the afterword should be required reading for everybody. They are doing something about it, where have you been the last few years? the original document was called agenda 21. the same people that wrote it and signed it into law at the united nations also taught you it is a hoax but sadly it is real you should read it some day. Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
Members SUP Posted November 17, 2023 Members Report Posted November 17, 2023 Back to the original topic of this thread - mycelium leather. The more I read about it, the more interesting it sounds, as long as they completely kill the cultures. It is even supposed to smell like leather - a big plus for me because I hate the plasticky smell of PU and some 'high-end' beautiful, plasticky leathers. I am perfectly willing to discard a bag - bio-degradable after all - rather than have it come alive and heal itself. Something icky about the idea of a fungus being made to come alive in this way. But that's just me. Quote Learning is a life-long journey.
CFM tsunkasapa Posted November 17, 2023 CFM Report Posted November 17, 2023 So here is a question about vegan leather. After they skin the vegans, is it chrome tanned or veg tanned? Quote Hoka Hey! Today, tomorrow, next week, what does it matter?
kgg Posted November 17, 2023 Report Posted November 17, 2023 36 minutes ago, tsunkasapa said: So here is a question about vegan leather. After they skin the vegans, is it chrome tanned or veg tanned? Cute question. kgg Quote Juki DNU - 1541S, Juki DU - 1181N, Singer 29K - 71(1949), Chinese Patcher (Tinkers Delight), Warlock TSC-441, Techsew 2750 Pro, Consew DCS-S4 Skiver
Members Handstitched Posted November 18, 2023 Members Report Posted November 18, 2023 10 hours ago, tsunkasapa said: So here is a question about vegan leather. After they skin the vegans, is it chrome tanned or veg tanned? You just 'broke the internet', as the expression goes , I like to think so anyway And besides, cows are vegan, they eat grass, hay, grain etc. , I don't ever recall a herd of cattle sitting down to a Lamb or Pork roast with a nice chardonnay , picture that Although, they do 'drink' ( eat ?) beer, silage and grain from breweries. HS Quote ' I have a very gweat friend in Wome called Biggus Dickus, He has a wife you know, do you know whats she's called? Incontinentia.......Incontinentia Buttocks '
Members Klara Posted November 18, 2023 Members Report Posted November 18, 2023 20 hours ago, chuck123wapati said: They are doing something about it, where have you been the last few years? the original document was called agenda 21. the same people that wrote it and signed it into law at the united nations also taught you it is a hoax but sadly it is real you should read it some day. Given that Agenda 21 was written in 1992 and population has increased from 5.5 billion to 8 billion, whatever is written there was not very useful. Also, in Germany and France people are still encouraged and helped to breed and as far as I know, the Catholic Church still is against contraception. Quote
Members Handstitched Posted November 18, 2023 Members Report Posted November 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Klara said: Also, in Germany and France people are still encouraged and helped to breed and as far as I know, the Catholic Church still is against contraception. So I guess the last person you'd want to have along with a date, is the Pope, lol HS Quote ' I have a very gweat friend in Wome called Biggus Dickus, He has a wife you know, do you know whats she's called? Incontinentia.......Incontinentia Buttocks '
Members SUP Posted November 18, 2023 Members Report Posted November 18, 2023 @Klara And people in the third world countries go on breeding like rabbits - I can say that, as I come from one, before anyone says it is politically inappropriate. I used to be astonished at families with 13 and 15 children - one mother! Those poor women! They don't bother reading any such material, too busy either breeding or trying to feed the mouths thus created! 18 hours ago, tsunkasapa said: So here is a question about vegan leather. After they skin the vegans, is it chrome tanned or veg tanned? Chrome tanned - veg tanning may use fish oils.... horrors! @Handstitched yep always vegans being eaten - that veg diet makes them more juicy and succulent, I guess. Do you think all human vegans will be too, in case cannibalism comes in after an 'apocalypse'? I mean, we are all animals aren't we? Or is that thinking politically incorrect as well? Early morning me is a bit more blunt. sorry. Quote Learning is a life-long journey.
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