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16 hours ago, kgg said:

... To make any substantial changes we would have to reset the global population lifestyle to that of the cavemen. Can't see that happening anytime soon. ...

The alternative would be to get numbers back to cavemen. For overpopulation is the biggest problem. Which, funnily enough, has been known for 40 years at least (that's when I saw the documentary on German TV), but nobody's been doing anything about. 

As for climate change and scientists, I strongly recommend the afterword to Michael Crichton's State of Fear. The book is one of his worse ones (though it does explain why governments have a vested interest in making people afraid), but the afterword should be required reading for everybody. 

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My great grand-mother used to say that each time there is an excess  load on earth, nature auto-corrects  with natural disasters and pandemics until balance is restored. Seems to be the path we are on now, whatever the rhetoric. Maybe we should all remember the wisdom of our ancestors.

Nature always auto-corrects - and we are just another animal, never mind our arrogance in thinking we are special. We are not and are as dispensable as the dinosaurs.

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3 hours ago, Klara said:

The alternative would be to get numbers back to cavemen. For overpopulation is the biggest problem. Which, funnily enough, has been known for 40 years at least (that's when I saw the documentary on German TV), but nobody's been doing anything about. 

As for climate change and scientists, I strongly recommend the afterword to Michael Crichton's State of Fear. The book is one of his worse ones (though it does explain why governments have a vested interest in making people afraid), but the afterword should be required reading for everybody. 

They are doing something about it, where have you been the last few years? the original document was called agenda 21. the same people that wrote it and signed it into law at the united nations also taught you it is a hoax but sadly it is real you should read it some day. 

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Back to the original topic of this thread - mycelium leather. The more I read about it, the more interesting it sounds, as long as they completely kill the cultures. It is even supposed to smell like leather -  a big plus for me because I hate the plasticky smell of PU and some 'high-end' beautiful, plasticky leathers.   I am perfectly willing to discard a bag - bio-degradable after all - rather than have it come alive and heal itself. Something icky about the idea of a fungus being made to come alive in this way. But that's just me.

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So here is a question about vegan leather. After they skin the vegans, is it chrome tanned or veg tanned?

Hoka Hey! Today, tomorrow, next week, what does it matter?

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36 minutes ago, tsunkasapa said:

So here is a question about vegan leather. After they skin the vegans, is it chrome tanned or veg tanned?

Cute question.

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10 hours ago, tsunkasapa said:

So here is a question about vegan leather. After they skin the vegans, is it chrome tanned or veg tanned?

You just 'broke the internet', as the expression goes  , I like to think so anyway :rofl:

And besides, cows are vegan, they eat grass, hay, grain  etc. , I don't ever recall a herd of cattle  sitting down to a  Lamb or  Pork roast with a nice chardonnay , picture that ;)  Although, they do 'drink' ( eat ?) beer, silage and grain  from breweries. 

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20 hours ago, chuck123wapati said:

They are doing something about it, where have you been the last few years? the original document was called agenda 21. the same people that wrote it and signed it into law at the united nations also taught you it is a hoax but sadly it is real you should read it some day. 

Given that Agenda 21 was written in 1992 and population has increased from 5.5 billion to 8 billion, whatever is written there was not very useful. Also, in Germany and France people are still encouraged and helped to breed and as far as I know, the Catholic Church still is against contraception.

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1 hour ago, Klara said:

Also, in Germany and France people are still encouraged and helped to breed and as far as I know, the Catholic Church still is against contraception.

So I guess the last person you'd want to have along with a date, is the Pope, lol  ;) 

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He has a wife you know, do you know whats she's called? Incontinentia.......Incontinentia Buttocks '  :rofl:

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@Klara  And  people in the third world countries go on breeding like rabbits - I can say that, as I come from one, before anyone says it is politically inappropriate. I used to be astonished at families with 13 and 15 children - one mother! Those poor women! They don't bother reading any such material, too busy either breeding or trying to feed the mouths thus created!

 

18 hours ago, tsunkasapa said:

So here is a question about vegan leather. After they skin the vegans, is it chrome tanned or veg tanned?

Chrome tanned - veg tanning may use fish oils.... horrors!

@Handstitched yep always vegans being eaten - that veg diet makes them more juicy and succulent, I guess. Do you think all human vegans will be too, in case cannibalism comes in after an 'apocalypse'?  I mean, we are all animals aren't we? Or is that thinking politically incorrect as well?

Early morning me is a bit more blunt. sorry.

 

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