Pet peeves - Ugh!

[kgg]

On 5/19/2024 at 8:12 PM, fredk said:

Fuel and most other liquids are in litres

You got to remember the Imperial measurement for liquids is different then the US system of measurements. A US gallon is only equal to 3.78 litres or put another way the US pint is about 20 percent smaller then what you get at a pub. Also the US ton is a short ton at 2000 pounds verses a real ton at 2240 pounds.

kgg

[Northmount]

19 hours ago, kgg said:

You got to remember the Imperial measurement for liquids is different then the US system of measurements. A US gallon is only equal to 3.78 litres or put another way the US pint is about 20 percent smaller then what you get at a pub. Also the US ton is a short ton at 2000 pounds verses a real ton at 2240 pounds.

kgg

A little break down of US and Imperial fluid measures.

1 cup is 8 fl oz.

US Pint is 16 fl oz.  Imperial Pint is 20 fl oz.

US Quart is 32 fl oz.  Imperial Quart is 40 fl oz.

US Gallon is 128 fl oz.  Imperial Gallon is 160 fl oz.

 

Dealing with tonnage, SI uses the term tonne for 1000 kg, 2240 2204.62 pounds.

 

Edited May 22, 2024 by Northmount
corrected tonne conversion

[kgg]

16 hours ago, Northmount said:

Dealing with tonnage, SI uses the term tonne for 1000 kg, 2240 pounds.

@NorthmountI think you probably mistyped as 1000 kg is equal to 2204.62  pounds. There are three measurements for tonnage, sometimes noted as the French term -- tonnes:

i) Imperial (British) ton: Long ton, 2240 pounds.

ii) Metric ton (SI): 1000 kg = 2204 pounds

iii) US ton: Short ton, 2000 pounds

The difference between the Imperial and the US ton is that the British based their hundredweight on "stone weight" where a stone was 14 pounds and 8 stones was their hundredweight at 112 pounds verses the US based theirs hundredweight on having 100 pounds. The hundredweight was the sack weight a man could carry. I guess the Brits were stronger.

kgg

Edited May 22, 2024 by kgg

[Northmount]

9 minutes ago, kgg said:

I think you probably mistyped as 1000 kg is equal to 2204.62  pounds. There are three measurements for tonnage, sometimes noted as the French term -- tonnes:

That should be 2204.62 pounds.  The SI Standard and user guide used in Canada uses the term tonne for 1000 kg.

 

[jcuk]

On 5/19/2024 at 9:12 PM, fredk said:

Although we adopted the metric system we still buy fresh food by the pound & ounces. Pre-packaged foods are in kilograms and grams. Fuel and most other liquids are in litres, but down in pub you buy a pint. We're bi-lingual

Last week I asked my butcher for about 1/2 a kilogram of mince beef. He gave me a blank stare. I said - about 500 grams. Blank stare. Give me a pound of mince. Instant action 

 

A good few years ago i remember market traders who were still displaying and selling their product in pounds and ounces were threatened with heavy fines if they did not change to Kilos. I remember saying to my better half how can they do that when we buy petrol by the litre and yet all the road signs are in miles, i said if it was me that my argument would be until you change all the road signs to kilometres, costing millions i have no doubt, don't thing it would cut any ice with them though. Another case of double standards in my opinion. Although i can work in imperial and metric. 

[fredk]

1 hour ago, kgg said:

. . . the British based their hundredweight on "stone weight" where a stone was 14 pounds and 8 stones was their hundredweight at 112 pounds . . . 

From mid-medieval period the weights and measures were set down by Edward 1st and Edward III

The British Ton is based on the wine barrel the Tun. The odd weight is 2000lb plus 240lb for the barrel weight. And this carries on down; the hundred-weight is 100lb plus 12 lb for the barrel =112lb

Ships were measured as to how many Tuns of wine barrels they could fit in their cargo hold thus a 150 Ton/Tun ship actually does does not weigh that

Edited May 22, 2024 by fredk

[fredk]

1 hour ago, jcuk said:

A good few years ago i remember market traders who were still displaying and selling their product in pounds and ounces were threatened with heavy fines if they did not change to Kilos. . . . 

That was true but it was cleared up many years ago with law. Fresh foods may be sold either in Imperial or metric measures. Its up to the vendor to choose. Most price their foods for both

Edited May 22, 2024 by fredk

[bladegrinder]

So, instead of using 6-7 oz leather we’re really using 0.17 - 0.198 kilogram leather? 

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[Mablung]

1 hour ago, bladegrinder said:

So, instead of using 6-7 oz leather we’re really using 0.17 - 0.198 kilogram leather? 

I'm thinking we should just measure everything in fractions of astronomical units.