Members YinTx Posted January 16, 2015 Members Report Posted January 16, 2015 I think I could use some help here. Recently removed the round point needles that came in the Techsew 4100 machine I purchased, and installed Organ 794 LR Size 230/26 with white 277 thread. First round was a complete disaster, finally managed to get the results shown in the photos. Not certain it is what it should be though, and I can't say that I'm happy with it. Any suggestions on what I should be doing to get this to be a better stitch? Also looks like it is blowing out the back, not a clean exit. One row is just with the needle, the second row has the thread. Quote YinTx https://www.instagram.com/lanasia_2017/ https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLK6HvLWuZTzjt3MbR0Yhcj_WIQIvchezo
Members DoubleC Posted January 16, 2015 Members Report Posted January 16, 2015 Yin? who did you let talk you into 100.00 worth of needles and to change what the tecksew had in it already. Did it sew with that needle? Quote http://www.etsy.com/shop/DoubleCCowgirl
Members YinTx Posted January 16, 2015 Author Members Report Posted January 16, 2015 No, it didn't sew well with the round point needle either. From everything I can find, round points aren't necessarily intended for leather anyhow. I am hoping this is operator error here. Quote YinTx https://www.instagram.com/lanasia_2017/ https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLK6HvLWuZTzjt3MbR0Yhcj_WIQIvchezo
Members DoubleC Posted January 16, 2015 Members Report Posted January 16, 2015 It could be yin, machines have a steep learning curve. I think the 26 is too big though, I really do. I use 24s with my 277 and it seems to work well. I get mine a pkg a time from cobra steve and he tells me what I need. Quote http://www.etsy.com/shop/DoubleCCowgirl
Members Constabulary Posted January 16, 2015 Members Report Posted January 16, 2015 (edited) I´d say too thin thread or too thick needle. I´d try a 180 to 200 (metric) needles for 277 thread (180 might be a bit tight but I´d at least try it) and would reduce the foot pressure on the center foot as it leaves feed dog marks on the backside. Leather seems not to be very thick so a round point needle could probably work fine but depends on the result you expect. Different points produce different seams. I think I have seen a chart from GROZ BECKERT showing the different seams that the different needle tip will produce but can´t find it atm. Edited January 16, 2015 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members SARK9 Posted January 16, 2015 Members Report Posted January 16, 2015 www.artisansew.com/pdf/manuals/schmetz_cutting.pdf http://grozbeckert.com/cms/en/products_services/sewing/smn_produktprogramm/weitere_produktinformationen_sewing/s_leather_points/ -DC Quote Machines: Juki LU-563, Consew 206-RB5, Singer 20U33, Pfaff 481, Mitsubishi CU-865-22, Consew 29B, Rebadged Juki LU-562, Mitsubishi LS2-180, Seiko SK-6, Juki LG-158-1
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted January 16, 2015 Moderator Report Posted January 16, 2015 (edited) LinTx; #26 needles are meant for #346 thread, top and bottom. Try some Schmetz #25/200 S point needles. They produce an inline stitch, with minimal bottom puckering, depending on the pressure on the presser foot. Edited January 16, 2015 by Wizcrafts Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Cobra Steve Posted January 16, 2015 Report Posted January 16, 2015 YinTX. We sell both Schmetz and Organ in both Leather Point and Round Point. Quote Thank You Steve Tayrien Leather Machine Co., Inc. 2141 E. Philadelphia St. Unit "U" Ontario, California 91761 1-866-962-9880 http://www.leathermachineco.com cobra@leathermachineco.com
Techsew Ron Posted January 16, 2015 Report Posted January 16, 2015 How thick is the leather you're sewing? you should probably go down in needle size and thread size. Quote Techsew Industrial Sewing Machines Call toll-free: 866-415-8223 Visit www.techsew.com
Members Gump Posted January 16, 2015 Members Report Posted January 16, 2015 Check to make sure your needle is aligned at the right angle. Those needles should cut a 45 degree angle cut and they look rather flat across. And yes they are too large for the thread and leather as others have posted. Gump. Quote
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