CowboyBob Posted December 16, 2015 Report Posted December 16, 2015 The gear reducer servo is no longer being made & yes they were more $$ than the FS-550 we now sell,so all we have is the FS-550 which will need a speed reducer($135.00) to run the 205 @ a slow enough speed & have enough power. Quote Bob Kovar Toledo Industrial Sewing Machine Sales Ltd. 3631 Marine Rd Toledo,Ohio 43609 1-866-362-7397
Members llucas Posted December 17, 2015 Author Members Report Posted December 17, 2015 Bob, I appreciate the additional information. Thanks for sharing it here. Hopefully it is helpful to others -- I know it is helpful to me. Quote
Members llucas Posted December 19, 2015 Author Members Report Posted December 19, 2015 When I get through the expenses of Christmas (lots of grandkids theses days), I will place a few orders based on info given on this forum. Thanks to all who helped. Uwe, still looking forward to your video demonstrating timing the 205-370 -- and any other video you do on the Adler 205-370. Quote
Members Anvas Posted December 28, 2015 Members Report Posted December 28, 2015 Servo motors are nice but can't substitute a skilled foot on a clutch motor's pedal. Even without any reducer pulley you can go stitch by stitch. It simply takes some decades and some hundred thousand miles of thread. And as my mentor said to me once when I was complaining on the motor's speed : "Learn how to sew first" Quote Andrew Machines in use : Adler 69, Adler 169, Adler 104 410 2 needle, Adler 205 MO , Protos 640 3needle, Fortuna V50 skiver, Atom swing arm press cutter
Members dikman Posted December 28, 2015 Members Report Posted December 28, 2015 It simply takes some decades Unfortunately, some of us don't have that sort of timeframe available to us anymore......... . Quote Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500. Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)
Members SARK9 Posted December 28, 2015 Members Report Posted December 28, 2015 (edited) <satire>In spite of the ardent passion some feel for the "clutch motor", it will never, ever replace the tried-and-true *line shaft* for reliably powering the machines of the true artisan. Who would forego the reassuring whisper of the master smith's stout waterwheel, and the regular slap-slap-slap of the overhead leather belts? The "clutch" itself is a dodge created for the lightly practised worker, as real journeymen have no need of such trivialities; these clutches are for people who STOP sewing! We can only feel a certain remorse for those lacking in the skills needed to efficiently organize their workday, who with red-faced shame, find they NEED a clutch. The wise practitioner will realize that these buzzing, diabolical new devices, with their overly indulgent "clutch", can never be made to last as long as true river power, and we must look askance at the fainting dilettantes who lobby for their substitution.</satire> -DC Edited December 28, 2015 by SARK9 Quote Machines: Juki LU-563, Consew 206-RB5, Singer 20U33, Pfaff 481, Mitsubishi CU-865-22, Consew 29B, Rebadged Juki LU-562, Mitsubishi LS2-180, Seiko SK-6, Juki LG-158-1
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted December 28, 2015 Moderator Report Posted December 28, 2015 <satire> Snip </satire> -DC Boy, I couldn't live like that! Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Members SARK9 Posted December 29, 2015 Members Report Posted December 29, 2015 I am still a mere white belt in iconoclast-fu, but gratified to see a score called out. The send-up of the 19th century's darling clutch motor (and its cadre of extremist feathering savants) is meant to be humorous when seen from a particular perspective..... that of the more general newish sewing population, who, finding their balky/grabby temperamental speed demon to be absolutely hopeless for detailed work, extinguish all charitable thinking on the subject. This, in turn, may lead to an amplified perception of insufferable smugness when confronting those who prominently wear the feathering-campaign-award-ribbons a bit too proudly in public. Sorry. Yes, we all have at least one clutch motor. I have several piled up on a dusty pallet. If you are not a sailmaker or such, the sole reason I can see to *prefer* one in a non-production/industrial setting is: You already have it. Woot. I suppose, in retrospect, its a good thing I didn't publish a CARTOON with a likeness of one. -DC Quote Machines: Juki LU-563, Consew 206-RB5, Singer 20U33, Pfaff 481, Mitsubishi CU-865-22, Consew 29B, Rebadged Juki LU-562, Mitsubishi LS2-180, Seiko SK-6, Juki LG-158-1
Uwe Posted December 29, 2015 Report Posted December 29, 2015 I feel a little guilty and elitist that I'm actually getting your humor and admire your eloquent prose, DC. Quote Uwe (pronounced "OOH-vuh" ) Links: Videos
Members dikman Posted December 29, 2015 Members Report Posted December 29, 2015 He does indeed have an eloquent turn-of-phrase, and it made me chuckle a little. And yes, I have three clutch motors (including a very old Singer) kicking around. One of them will be used on one of my Singers, albeit with a rather large speed reducer, as I want to see if I too can develop an "educated foot"! (Ever the glutton for punishment, it would seem). Quote Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500. Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)
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