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In general, an original machine in good condition is worth about the same as a new chinese aftermarket copy. Five years from now that used original will STILL be worth about the same (whether a good used original is 20 or 25 years old makes no difference). The shiny new aftermarket/chinese machine will loose a third of its value the moment it arrives at your door steps. Five years from now it will be worth half, if you're lucky.

You also have to be willing to pull a machine away from the wall so you can see the front, and tilt it back so you can see the underside.

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100% opinion here, so that is all its worth.

I have a Consew 206RB5 with servo, which I bought new, and it is really a pretty good machine for what I do with it...the base design is very popular and widely in use, and shares many accessories and repair parts with the legacy machines, making most of the parts extremely affordable in price. I've not had any issues with mine at all, and it performs very well.

That being said, I'll add-  The reason I bought the new 206 in the first place was because there was not a Pfaff 1245 in good condition available anywhere within drivable mileage when I had to SOGOTP. If I had been offered a 1245 in known good condition at the time, the choice would have been a no-brainer to me personally. I'd spend a bit more and take some small risks for the Pfaff. Just sayin'.

 

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Machines: Juki LU-563, Consew 206-RB5, Singer 20U33, Pfaff 481, Mitsubishi CU-865-22, Consew 29B, Rebadged Juki LU-562,  Mitsubishi LS2-180,  Seiko SK-6, Juki LG-158-1

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I don't know anything about the 1245, but Pfaff parts can be expensive and may not be as readily available as the Consew's.

Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500.

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Ok Tom- This is what I have for that model:

 

 

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Machines: Juki LU-563, Consew 206-RB5, Singer 20U33, Pfaff 481, Mitsubishi CU-865-22, Consew 29B, Rebadged Juki LU-562,  Mitsubishi LS2-180,  Seiko SK-6, Juki LG-158-1

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On 3/21/2016 at 11:02 AM, shoepatcher said:

the Honey colored one which is the 1245-706/47 is like mine. It is the newer machine. It is a lot like mine. Both machines are big bobbin. If it was a smaller "G" bobbin, would be a 145 or 245. The hammer tone machine is a C-class machine, L means for sewing leather, P means 4 motion drop feed, M means safety clutch, N means 6 mm maximum stitch length. I would assume the honey colored one is the same. These machines may use a system #190 needle. Mine does. You can also set them up with #134-45 needles or even 135x17 needles. These are very good German made machines. All my years of experience has shown that anytime Pfaff and Adler made a machine in the same class, the Pfaff is usually smoother running. I know Joe Esposito will agree with me on that., i.e. Pfaff 1245 vs. Adler 267 for instance.

The hammer tone 1245 needs a good cleaning especially around the hook and bobbin case. I can see lint and dirt under the bobbin case gibs. The honey colored one may need it as well. All in all, a very good find If it was me, I would buy the honey colored one only because it is newer. Both seem to be very good machine and in good condition. Hell, buy both of them and sell one! Email if you have anymore questions.

glenn

 

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Can anyone please tell me what is the difference between the Phaff model  1245-706/47

                                                                                               and the model 1245-706/48

                            Thanks so much in advance to anyone answering my question.   Horace

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I have not been able to find out what the difference is other than the 706/48 is older.

glenn

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