Evo160K Posted December 1, 2016 Report Posted December 1, 2016 Looks too glossy to me for a Singer 45K25 that was built in 1940, but then, I've never seen a restored 45K or even an original one with decals (mine was sprayed over). Does anyone know how they looked new compared to the test piece? It's no problem to tone down the gloss with a fine polishing compound. Researching japanning has been extremely interesting as well as educational. I like the process a great deal, it brushes on easily (no need for masking tape), it fills the imperfections, $100 in materials will probably do 6-8 machines and it's the authentic finish. It can be stove cured or air cured, depending upon how much time is available. The test piece was stove cured. Your comments and suggestions are welcome. Quote
Members LumpenDoodle2 Posted December 1, 2016 Members Report Posted December 1, 2016 Very nice finish. I can't help specifically, but have attached a picture of a 45K for comparason. Keep in mind that you'll have 75 years of 'weathering', so it depends on whether you are after factory fresh or aged, I suppose. Quote “Equality? Political correctness gone mad, I tell you, gone mad!!!! Next they'll be wanting the vote!!!!! “. Anger and intolerance are the enemy of correct understanding
Members TinkerTailor Posted December 1, 2016 Members Report Posted December 1, 2016 I have a near new condition iron body domestic and the japanning is really glossy. Think about it, if you are going to put gilding all over the machine, and make it sparkle, you would also make sure the paint is shiny. Lumpendoodle2's is 75 years old and you can still see reflections on the arm. Quote "If nobody shares what they know, we will eventually all know nothing." "There is no adventure in letting fear and common sense be your guide"
Members Constabulary Posted December 1, 2016 Members Report Posted December 1, 2016 @ Lumpendoodle - A very nice machine you have!!!! I have some pic of a pre 1945 Singer 45Dxx (not mine) - still very shiny Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members LumpenDoodle2 Posted December 1, 2016 Members Report Posted December 1, 2016 Sorry to say that isn't my machine, I just uploaded it for comparison, but I would love to have the space to own one. I do have several Singers, and every one of them gleams, even the 29K whick spent 50 years sitting untouched, in an old garage at a farm. Maybe I should consider selling my 29K and buying a 45K. Quote “Equality? Political correctness gone mad, I tell you, gone mad!!!! Next they'll be wanting the vote!!!!! “. Anger and intolerance are the enemy of correct understanding
MADMAX22 Posted December 1, 2016 Report Posted December 1, 2016 (edited) Great start. Can you share a quick rundown of the process/ingredients you used. Thanks Oh and to add every smooth black singer I have gotten has had a nice shiny surface hiding under a 100yrs of finger oil and dust. Edited December 1, 2016 by MADMAX22 Quote
Members dikman Posted December 1, 2016 Members Report Posted December 1, 2016 I'm also interested in the process you used (just out of curiosity 'cos I don't know much about it). Quote Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500. Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)
Uwe Posted December 2, 2016 Report Posted December 2, 2016 (edited) I like the glossy look and I think it's quite accurate. The 1934 documentary "Birth of a sewing Machine" shows, among many other things, just how glossy these machines were around the 17:11 mark when the lady applies the decals. The japanned paint bath dip starts a little earlier at the 15:08 mark. I too am super curious to know the details of your paint process. I've been contemplating power-coating some parts in glossy black to see how it turns out. Edited December 2, 2016 by Uwe Quote Uwe (pronounced "OOH-vuh" ) Links: Videos
Members jimi Posted December 2, 2016 Members Report Posted December 2, 2016 (edited) Hey Al, great to see your machine coming along! that looks great, very nice finish. i would say bright and shiny was the finish on these machines also. i have tried to get some pictures taken of the finish, this as you know has not been restored and is very shiny on top and the bottom part has suffered some wear so it is not as shiny. 1950 Edited December 2, 2016 by jimi Quote
Members Constabulary Posted December 3, 2016 Members Report Posted December 3, 2016 Glen - so sooner or later we can read a japanning 1O1 here, right? It´s indeed an interesting process I´d like to read more about. Where have you sourced the "paint"? Jimi - have I ever mentioned that I hate you for your nice 45K´s? Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
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