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I hadn't intended watching all of that film - but I did! Absolutely fascinating, a time when quality control meant something.

The noise must have been horrendous, particularly in the "rumbling" area, all those steel drums filled with castings and ball bearings and rotating!!!!

It appears that they used a transfer system for the lettering, not a slide decal as we know them. The woman pressed them onto the machine, rubbed them down, peeled off the backing and then appeared to rub them very hard. Were they adhesive. or is it like the dry transfer system used with gold leaf? I couldn't tell, also I didn't see them put on a clear coat?

I loved the little loco and wagons in the yard with Singer painted on them.

Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500.

Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)

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To see the movie on any platform/operating system..use VLC player ( VLC player works on windows, Mac, linux etc, and smartphones and tablets )

Open VLC player, next copy all of this next line

http://vod.nls.uk/hls-vod/ssa/9152/91523128.15.m3u8

Then in VLC player click "media"..select "open from clipboard"..then choose "play"

The film will begin playing..

If you want to save it to your machine / phone / whatever..as soon as the player window opens and the film starts, click the red record button towards the bottom left of the player, , it will open a dialogue box which asks you to select somewhere to save it to, or it may save it by "default" to a folder( to choose the folder, go to "tools" then "preferences" then "input and codecs settings" then "files", click on "browse" and choose where you want VLC to save files to..select the place and click OK*.

Et Voila! as we say here in France :)

HTH

*Works for any movie, any site ( that has not properly secured their files from being accessed directly ), you get the "path" to copy into your clipboard by looking at the "source code" of the page the movie is in. Accessing a file this way is not illegal, is not "hacking".

Complete sewing machine movie is quite big, ( I can't remember exactly how big, and I have it stored on an HD which isn't on this machine..just checked , it is 849.2MB ) so make sure that you have enough space if you want to store it, you can shrink it losslessly later with "handbrake" ( video transcoding software for windows and linux ) or similar on mac . You can also change the file name to "Birth of a Sewing Machine" when the recording is finished via "rename" without needing handbrake..If you do transcode later, you can get the file down to 300 to 400Mb without any quality loss, set handbrake to "very slow" and "20" at "fixed frame rate".

Wait 'til the movie has actually stopped before clicking the red button again to stop recording, on some "streams" the progress bar will reach the end long before the movie has actually ended, clicking the red button before the movie has actually stopped will result in the movie being "cut short".

ps..The original decals they show are what are called "waterslide decals"..like plastic model kits came with when I was much, much, much younger. The metal parts are "leaf" ( whether gold leaf or silver leaf cannot be distinguished from the movie, but from the way the "scraps " fly in the making the decals section towards then end of the movie, I think gold leaf ), gold leaf can be used in "waterslide" decals, as long as either "size" is applied to the surface of the support, or the support has some "slight stick", as a recently painted machine would have even after a couple of days, burnishing the decal with a cloth ( which the woman does when applying the decal earlier ) would work to make it hold.

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"Don't you know that women are the only works of Art" .. ( Don Henley and "some French painter in a field" )

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downloaded it with FF add on:  Video DownloadHelper - its very easy to use.

~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~

Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2

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Bear in mind, the version of FF 57 is set to not be compatible, some FF versions from FF 53 or FF 54 onwards already won't run some ( it will be much closer to the way chrome from Google works, will use the same "engine" as chrome ) with very very many add ons and extensions ( over 2000 of them ) rendered "not compatible" and so they won't work..VDH ( and many other add ons and extensions ) may well not work if you update FF..you might want to look into palemoon, ( works with only some ) or one of the FF "forks" being developed due to Mozilla's insistence on this "update".

There are "workarounds" that can make some ( but not all ) "add ons" and "extensions" work again..

Check your FF versions ( and add on compatibility ) before updating FF on any platform.

It is worth reading these pages.

https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2017/02/16/the-road-to-firefox-57-compatibility-milestones/

and this page to get an idea of what may have problems and how to maybe mitigate them.

https://www.ghacks.net/2017/07/07/firefox-add-ons-webextensions-state-july-2017/

@dikman..btw .."waterslide" decals can be done the way the woman is doing it, wet the surface that you are applying the decal to..rub and peel off the decal backing, then burnish with soft cloth..the decal has to have been made with a clear coat as the first layer placed on the paper..You can make your own decals, many modellers do / did.

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"Don't you know that women are the only works of Art" .. ( Don Henley and "some French painter in a field" )

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Seems to be working again.

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Thanks Mike. My experience with waterslide decals (modelling) has been that you have to treat them very carefully once they are slid off the backing as they tend to be somewhat fragile. Which is why I thought they were using a dry rub system, judging by the effort she was applying in burnishing them down!

I wonder if we'll ever know exactly what they used?

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Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500.

Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)

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17 hours ago, Wizcrafts said:

What type of computer operating system or hand held device, as well as brand and version web browser are you using to try to open the video? Some systems may not be able to open this video unless the correct video codec is installed. Further, if you run a script blocker, the video cannot be loaded. I was able to open it in Firefox, Chrome, Edge and Internet Explorer on Windows 10.

 

Wizcrafts.  imho anyone who understands computers and the "black arts" has my respect and admiration.  Thank you.

 The computer is a Dell Inspiron 1545 running Windows 7 Home Premium.  The browser is Internet Explorer version 10.  That video has been working on my computer for 12-18 months withnot a single issue, no idea why it's not working now.  Maybe Dell changed a setting the last time they took remote control of the computer.

@ mikesc  thanks for those directions,  I'll give them a go.........as soon as I can muster the courage........damn Black Art

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2 hours ago, Evo160K said:

Wizcrafts.  imho anyone who understands computers and the "black arts" has my respect and admiration.  Thank you.

 The computer is a Dell Inspiron 1545 running Windows 7 Home Premium.  The browser is Internet Explorer version 10.  That video has been working on my computer for 12-18 months withnot a single issue, no idea why it's not working now.  Maybe Dell changed a setting the last time they took remote control of the computer.

When did Dell take control of your laptop and why? Are you certain it was actually Dell and not a tech support scammer in India?

As was mentioned earlier, you could download VLC Player and try to play the video in that app. The player can actually register itself as a plug-in for Firefox browsers (at least up to the current version, 56).

Posted IMHO, by Wiz

My current crop of sewing machines:

Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.

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topic drift..
I wondered about that too Wiz..but , not knowing if Dell did remote support ( apparently they do ) said nothing, so as not to alarm someone ITphobic..however.
http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/customercare/f/4674/t/19633589
which might be cause for concern..
Then again, a search for "IE 10 win7 home cannot play m3u8" brings up many cases of updates to IE 10 and 11 that give problems with that file type ( and others )..might be a very good time to download FF for win 7 and VLC and set FF to not auto-update ( and thus avoid the FF57 upcoming debacle ) until Mozilla maybe get a clue.

"Don't you know that women are the only works of Art" .. ( Don Henley and "some French painter in a field" )

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Yes, the topic has drifted, so I'll be brief.

Downloaded VLC per Miksc's directions and was able to get the video to play.  Thank you Sir.

Wizcrafts, it was Dell support, I'm positive.  I have an annual support contract with them.  The last remote control was to update IE 7? that Microsoft stopped supporting to IE 10, and they added Google Chrome.  GC btw doesn't play the video either, I haven't a clue and don't have the patience to learn about it, thus Dell Support.

If there's a way to play the video on IE 10, I would appreciate knowing how.  I'm going to disable scriptblocker if it's on.

Thank you Gentlemen.

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