glue Glue without the Stank?

[Sledzep01]

So I bought both of the aquilim glues.]

Do I still need silicone brushes? or would regular be ok??

Sled

[Danne]

On 2017-12-22 at 7:13 AM, Sledzep01 said:

So I bought both of the aquilim glues.]

Do I still need silicone brushes? or would regular be ok??

Sled

315 and SG? For waterbased glues you can use regular brushes. I have a bottle of water on my desk to rinse my brushes after glueing.

There are two ways to use Aquilim 315.

1. Apply 315 to ONE SIDE of leather (if one side is flesh side and one side is roughed/sanded grain, then apply to the piece with sanded grain.) and assemble directly and press a couple of seconds, or use a hammer. Now you have a good bond (which of course gets better when completely dried.)

2. Apply Aquilim 315 to both sides and let dry until it's clear, then assemble.

 

If you need a good solvent based glue for leather i can recommend two different versions from Renia. 

Renia - Topfit: Very versatile glue, also a good glue for bonding wet leather (If you need that for molded pieces for any reason.) One benefit with this glue is that it's not "stringy" 

Renia - Colle De Cologne: Really good for oil tanned leather, but it's "stringy"

I have most of Renias glues for leather. If i should choose three of them for the things i do, it would be. 315, SG and Top Fit.

Edited December 23, 2017 by Danne

[Sanch]

The brush that the TS boy glue pot comes with will work just fine as long as you keep it rinsed as suggested. Here's a quick picture of my setup as you can see I purchased all of it except for the silicone brushes from Sorrell Notions. the blue handle thingy on the right of the picture is the silicone brush LOL! The other one is in the glue pot. For the price of 2 I would purchase them vs the specific brush shown on the Sorelle Notions website. Just my opinion.

Edited December 25, 2017 by Sanch

[Danne]

47 minutes ago, Sanch said:

The brush that the TS boy glue pot comes with will work just fine as long as you keep it rinsed as suggested. Here's a quick picture of my setup as you can see I purchased all of it except for the silicone brushes from Sorrell Notions. the blue handle thingy on the right of the picture is the silicone brush LOL! The other one is in the glue pot. For the price of 2 I would purchase them vs the specific brush shown on the Sorelle Notions website. Just my opinion.

My brush look different. Ts-Boy looks like a clone of Minor. 

Edited December 25, 2017 by Danne

[Sanch]

1 minute ago, Danne said:

My brush look different. Ts-Boy looks like clone of Minor. 

Hmmm, possibly!

[motocouture]

I noticed on the info sheet with the Aquilim 315 (just bought some from Sorrell findings based on this thread : ), it says it works best using a squirt bottle. I was planning to use my 0.45L TS glue pot instead; has anyone had any issues using a TS glue pit for the 315?

[alpha2]

I just got mine, I use the glue pot. I tried the brush and the silicone applicator, the brush is very stiff, and becomes stiffer with glue on it. I'm going back to flat bristle brushes. I'll give the silicone applicator another try, but wasn't impressed so far. I use a hair dryer to speed the process, the Aquilim 315 dries much slower than a contact cement like Tanner's Bond. The Aquilim is much more forgiving to misalignment, I can pull it apart within reason, the Tanner's bond pulls leather apart if you try to pull it after the two sides touch. The instructions say if using on leather, to apply to one side and press together, if using on other surfaces, apply to both sides and wait until it goes clear. I did a lining for a checkbook cover the first way, then used the both sides/go clear method when putting the pockets on the lined cover. The second method worked much better for me, I'd like to hear what others have experienced.

Jeff

[motocouture]

Thanks @alpha2, appreciate the feedback. From my brief test run, I like the fact it has almost no odor compared to the Barge cement. Do you rinse your bristle brushes after each use, or just leave in the glue pot?

[alpha2]

I planned to just leave it in the pot, but decided against using the bristle brush. I just watched the video from the first page. I need to try some tests today. He got an instant bond with applying to one surface. He used a bristle brush but it was black, and I suspect it was synthetic bristles as opposed to the horsehair type I got with the pot. I'll get back to you today with my results.

I didn't mind the smell from the Tanner's Bond, but even with the smallest can available, I'd end up wasting at least a third of the stuff as it hardened up over time. I got a can of the thinner, but that was labor intensive to mix with the hardened stuff, and was a solvent, so, yeah, stank.

[Danne]

8 hours ago, alpha2 said:

I planned to just leave it in the pot, but decided against using the bristle brush. I just watched the video from the first page. I need to try some tests today. He got an instant bond with applying to one surface. He used a bristle brush but it was black, and I suspect it was synthetic bristles as opposed to the horsehair type I got with the pot. I'll get back to you today with my results.

I didn't mind the smell from the Tanner's Bond, but even with the smallest can available, I'd end up wasting at least a third of the stuff as it hardened up over time. I got a can of the thinner, but that was labor intensive to mix with the hardened stuff, and was a solvent, so, yeah, stank.

 

I apply to only one surface. (Don't use to much glue, a thin layer is enough) if you glue flesh to roughed grain, put the glue on the roughed grain.

i finish with either pressing the pieces together or hammering. After this i have really good bond suitable for continuing my work.

If you need a solvent based glue too for some stuff. Renia have two products i like.

Top-Fit and Colle De cologne. Top-fit is not stringy (or very little) Colle De cologne is better for waxy/oily leathers, but stringy.