Moderator Johanna Posted June 11, 2007 Moderator Report Posted June 11, 2007 I was taught to pound stitches (and lacing) to "set" them in veggie tanned leather. If you ask 50 leatherworkers how to do something, you will get 51 different answers, so I want to know if you folks pound your stitches in, too? If you do, why? If you don't, why not? I'm curious to hear the reasoning behind the methods, and what works best for you. Johanna Quote You cannot depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus. - Mark Twain
Ambassador abn Posted June 11, 2007 Ambassador Report Posted June 11, 2007 Johanna, it's interesting that you do this. Is the point to make the stitching look better? Other than cosmetic, I don't see how this would affect the strength of the seam or have any other functional value (but I've been wrong many times before )... My stitching seems to turn out fine without any additional help, but on rare occasions, I'll run an overstitcher over top just to clean things up a bit. -Alex Quote
Moderator Art Posted June 11, 2007 Moderator Report Posted June 11, 2007 Hi Johanna, I will wet the stitch line and "bone" the line to close-up the holes right after stitching. Maybe pounding on them would accomplish the same thing? I don't think it has anything to do with strength, just makes it look better. Art I was taught to pound stitches (and lacing) to "set" them in veggie tanned leather. If you ask 50 leatherworkers how to do something, you will get 51 different answers, so I want to know if you folks pound your stitches in, too? If you do, why? If you don't, why not? I'm curious to hear the reasoning behind the methods, and what works best for you.Johanna Quote For heaven's sakes pilgrim, make yourself a strop!
Members gary Posted June 11, 2007 Members Report Posted June 11, 2007 As I use a pricker, in almost all circumstances, to make the initial stich marks, the stitches sink into the leather as I stitch so there's no need to pound them afetrwards (and pointless too as the stitches have 'sunk' into the leather and are, in the main, below the surface). Gary Quote
Ambassador Beaverslayer Posted June 11, 2007 Ambassador Report Posted June 11, 2007 On my lacing I use a lace roller just to make the lace lay down better wher it goes into the holes. Ken Quote Beaverslayer Custom Leather<br />Wearable Works of Art https://www.facebook...erCustomLeather
Ambassador Don101 Posted June 11, 2007 Ambassador Report Posted June 11, 2007 im the same as abn i just run over with an overstitcher for a better visuall affect Quote
Members D.A. Kabatoff Posted June 11, 2007 Members Report Posted June 11, 2007 I too was shown pounding the stitches with a wide face shoe hammer and it was for two reasons. I think the idea was flattening the thread helped to fill the hole made by your awl when handstitching, or the needle or awl when usuing a machine. Flattening the thread caused it to fill in the hole a little more to give it a more attractive appearance... it also served to prevent dirt from getting in the stitching holes and potentially wearing on the threads. I no longer do this because the machine I use is a Landis 3 needle and awl machine that is set up in such a way that the holes are extremely tight as they are. When I handsew something like a cantle binding, I use an overstitch wheel very lightly to give the waxed linen stitches a more uniform look. My feeling about pounding the stitches on a cantle binding is that I've used the stitch groover to recess the stitching, hammering on it will simply push the leather down on each side of the stitch and make it vulnerable to rubbing again. I suppose it depends on the item being made. Darc Quote
Ambassador The Major Posted June 12, 2007 Ambassador Report Posted June 12, 2007 I used to be of that mindset. And all I got out of it was squished thread. As have been mentioned already, I just run a bone folder over the stitches to set them in the stitch groove. You can also use the overstitch wheel, but I have found if you do a nice tight stitch to begin with, you almost never have to go over them again after you are done. Quote Shawn Zoladz (The Major) dba Major Productions Everything Leather Saddles and Shoes Excluded You can lead me. You can follow me. Or you can get the hell out of my way. -Gen. Geo. S. Patton
Members gesa Posted June 13, 2007 Members Report Posted June 13, 2007 Hi, I voted for " sometimes, it depends" because I do it rarely. I pound the stitches with my saddler hammer if there is wear on the stitches. I do mostly english tack and when I sew a pair of english stirrup leathers I pound the stitches flat . It is life threatening when these stitches come loose. I can not remember other items at the moment. Gesa Quote
Moderator Art Posted June 13, 2007 Moderator Report Posted June 13, 2007 Hi Gesa, I know folks around here who consider English tack life threatening when it does hold together. Art Hi,I voted for " sometimes, it depends" because I do it rarely. I pound the stitches with my saddler hammer if there is wear on the stitches. I do mostly english tack and when I sew a pair of english stirrup leathers I pound the stitches flat . It is life threatening when these stitches come loose. I can not remember other items at the moment. Gesa Quote For heaven's sakes pilgrim, make yourself a strop!
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