Johanna Report post Posted June 11, 2007 I was taught to pound stitches (and lacing) to "set" them in veggie tanned leather. If you ask 50 leatherworkers how to do something, you will get 51 different answers, so I want to know if you folks pound your stitches in, too? If you do, why? If you don't, why not? I'm curious to hear the reasoning behind the methods, and what works best for you. Johanna Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abn Report post Posted June 11, 2007 Johanna, it's interesting that you do this. Is the point to make the stitching look better? Other than cosmetic, I don't see how this would affect the strength of the seam or have any other functional value (but I've been wrong many times before )... My stitching seems to turn out fine without any additional help, but on rare occasions, I'll run an overstitcher over top just to clean things up a bit. -Alex Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Report post Posted June 11, 2007 Hi Johanna, I will wet the stitch line and "bone" the line to close-up the holes right after stitching. Maybe pounding on them would accomplish the same thing? I don't think it has anything to do with strength, just makes it look better. Art I was taught to pound stitches (and lacing) to "set" them in veggie tanned leather. If you ask 50 leatherworkers how to do something, you will get 51 different answers, so I want to know if you folks pound your stitches in, too? If you do, why? If you don't, why not? I'm curious to hear the reasoning behind the methods, and what works best for you.Johanna Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gary Report post Posted June 11, 2007 As I use a pricker, in almost all circumstances, to make the initial stich marks, the stitches sink into the leather as I stitch so there's no need to pound them afetrwards (and pointless too as the stitches have 'sunk' into the leather and are, in the main, below the surface). Gary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beaverslayer Report post Posted June 11, 2007 On my lacing I use a lace roller just to make the lace lay down better wher it goes into the holes. Ken Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Don101 Report post Posted June 11, 2007 im the same as abn i just run over with an overstitcher for a better visuall affect Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D.A. Kabatoff Report post Posted June 11, 2007 I too was shown pounding the stitches with a wide face shoe hammer and it was for two reasons. I think the idea was flattening the thread helped to fill the hole made by your awl when handstitching, or the needle or awl when usuing a machine. Flattening the thread caused it to fill in the hole a little more to give it a more attractive appearance... it also served to prevent dirt from getting in the stitching holes and potentially wearing on the threads. I no longer do this because the machine I use is a Landis 3 needle and awl machine that is set up in such a way that the holes are extremely tight as they are. When I handsew something like a cantle binding, I use an overstitch wheel very lightly to give the waxed linen stitches a more uniform look. My feeling about pounding the stitches on a cantle binding is that I've used the stitch groover to recess the stitching, hammering on it will simply push the leather down on each side of the stitch and make it vulnerable to rubbing again. I suppose it depends on the item being made. Darc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Major Report post Posted June 12, 2007 I used to be of that mindset. And all I got out of it was squished thread. As have been mentioned already, I just run a bone folder over the stitches to set them in the stitch groove. You can also use the overstitch wheel, but I have found if you do a nice tight stitch to begin with, you almost never have to go over them again after you are done. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gesa Report post Posted June 13, 2007 Hi, I voted for " sometimes, it depends" because I do it rarely. I pound the stitches with my saddler hammer if there is wear on the stitches. I do mostly english tack and when I sew a pair of english stirrup leathers I pound the stitches flat . It is life threatening when these stitches come loose. I can not remember other items at the moment. Gesa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Report post Posted June 13, 2007 Hi Gesa, I know folks around here who consider English tack life threatening when it does hold together. Art Hi,I voted for " sometimes, it depends" because I do it rarely. I pound the stitches with my saddler hammer if there is wear on the stitches. I do mostly english tack and when I sew a pair of english stirrup leathers I pound the stitches flat . It is life threatening when these stitches come loose. I can not remember other items at the moment. Gesa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gesa Report post Posted June 13, 2007 Hi Art, I personally think similar........thats why I own an American Paint Horse and prefer riding with western tack. So I am sort of exotic where I work, but I am not the only one !! Gesa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seasoned Warrior Report post Posted September 14, 2007 I never pound, I believe it weakens the thread. On edges I frequently gouge out the stitch line and sometimes I'll use an overstitch wheel. Other times I use a hardwood roller to even out the stitches and eliminate any tendency to "bunch". With lace I always roll it with a dowl and even braiding, rolling it tends to level out the braid and make it more even. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Craw Report post Posted September 14, 2007 I've never heard of "pounding in stitches". Rubbing or pounding lace to make it lay flat, yes, but never stitches. Stolhman shows using the wheel marker over the stitches to make the whole line of stitches look "dressier", so that's what I do. I usually glue all my seams on combat holsters that guys are going to use on the street BEFORE I sew them, and I pound that glued (Barge) seam, but I never heard of pounding them afterwords. That's why I check this site every day. I always find something new. Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites