Contributing Member Ferg Posted March 16, 2018 Contributing Member Report Posted March 16, 2018 My first experience with a sewing machine was before I started grade school, almost 80 years ago. It was my mom's peddle Singer. I sewed some of her quilt patches together if I remember correctly, that didn't go over real well. Have used several home machines and just brought home my newest Leather machine yesterday. Had made arrangements with Bob Kovar ( Toledo Industrial) to have them set-up a new Cowboy 3200 for me. Bob asked if I wanted them to run through the operation, I said no. "Do you want to sew with it?" No. Bobby put the head in a box for me while we carried the remainder out to the truck. Looked it over when we got home with it. This afternoon I put my new drop down roller guide from Uwe on it, oiled and threaded it. Set the Servo to Slowwww, turned the table perpendicular to my big window in the sewing room, sunlight washing over the machine, Placed two pieces of Bridle scrap together and sewed several different length stitches. Other than needing to loosen the foot pressure a little more, it sewed perfectly. I had to sit back and admire my stitching for a few minutes. Nice machine!!!!! Anyone wishing to attach the drop down roller guide from uwe, The one he has in stock right now is a little long. I had to cut about 1/4" off one piece. Attaching the accessory bracket to the machine worked fine. The wall of the machine is only about 1/2" thick so I was a little surprised when the drill bit broke through before I got to 3/4" as suggested. Easily threaded the hole and attached the bracket. Notice I said, Hole as in one hole. Didn't drill the other hole since I have attached them before with just one bolt. Also attached the extension from Uwe for the hand lift for the foot. The machine couldn't be anymore of what I wanted. Thanks Bob and Bobby for getting it adjusted perfectly for me. I have only one gripe and it doesn't concern the machine. Suppliers on the Web advertise they have every needle ever made by so and so for the 441 clones. Not so. You will be lucky to find a half dozen different. They supply all these fancy charts with all the "Point" configurations and only have maybe four. If you are looking for a machine of this size and abilities, buy a 3200, you will never regret it. Ferg Quote
bikermutt07 Posted March 16, 2018 Report Posted March 16, 2018 Nicely done, Sir. Felt like I was right there with you. Quote I'm not paying 80 bucks for a belt!!! It's a strip of leather. How hard could it be? 4 years and 3 grand later.... I have a belt I can finally live with. Stitching is like gravy, it's only great if you make it every day. From Texas but in Bossier City, Louisiana.
Members Kenl Posted March 17, 2018 Members Report Posted March 17, 2018 I just picked mine up two days ago. They are nice machines. Quote
Members Bugstruck Posted March 17, 2018 Members Report Posted March 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Ferg said: My first experience with a sewing machine was before I started gradin school, almost 80 years ago. It was my mom's peddle Singer. I sewed some of her quilt patches together if I remember correctly, that didn't go over real well. Have used several home machines and just brought home my newest Leather machine yesterday. Had made arrangements with Bob Kovar ( Toledo Industrial) to have them set-up a new Cowboy 3200 for me. Bob asked if I wanted them to run through the operation, I said no. "Do you want to sew with it?" No. Bobby put the head in a box for me while we carried the remainder out to the truck. Looked it over when we got home with it. This afternoon I put my new drop down roller guide from Uwe on it, oiled and threaded it. Set the Servo to Slowwww, turned the table perpendicular to my big window in the sewing room, sunlight washing over the machine, Placed two pieces of Bridle scrap together and sewed several different length stitches. Other than needing to loosen the foot pressure a little more, it sewed perfectly. I had to sit back and admire my stitching for a few minutes. Nice machine!!!!! Anyone wishing to attach the drop down roller guide from uwe, The one he has in stock right now is a little long. I had to cut about 1/4" off one piece. Attaching the accessory bracket to the machine worked fine. The wall of the machine is only about 1/2" thick so I was a little surprised when the drill bit broke through before I got to 3/4" as suggested. Easily threaded the hole and attached the bracket. Notice I said, Hole as in one hole. Didn't drill the other hole since I have attached them before with just one bolt. Also attached the extension from Uwe for the hand lift for the foot. The machine couldn't be anymore of what I wanted. Thanks Bob and Bobby for getting it adjusted perfectly for me. I have only one gripe and it doesn't concern the machine. Suppliers on the Web advertise they have every needle ever made by so and so for the 441 clones. Not so. You will be lucky to find a half dozen different. They supply all these fancy charts with all the "Point" configurations and only have maybe four. If you are looking for a machine of this size and abilities, buy a 3200, you will never regret it. Ferg Good write up. Great machine too. I have one of Bob's near the same. Regarding needles/points I have several but 90% of the time I still reach for the packs from Toledo. S points I think. So I had to experiment, little tendancy of mine but I ended up right where he pointed me. I hope you enjoy yours as much as I do mine. Good decision today and tomorrow IMO. Enjoy away. Quote
Members Colt W Knight Posted March 17, 2018 Members Report Posted March 17, 2018 I have a 4500 from Bob. Im impressed with the stitch quality of these 441 clones. Quote
Hockeymender Posted March 17, 2018 Report Posted March 17, 2018 Hey Ferg, Where did you get the grey light that is closest to the business end of the machine? That looks quite interesting. Can never have too much light. Quote Regards, Joe Esposito www.hockeymenders.com instragram: @hockeymenders.com
Contributing Member Ferg Posted March 17, 2018 Author Contributing Member Report Posted March 17, 2018 Joe, Bob supplies that little magnetic light with the machine. I had the machine turned longways behind my flatbed Consew. When I began attaching the drop down I turned it the way it is in the photo. Liked the natural light coming in that window. Sure helped my tired ole' eyes. I need all the light I can get. Notice the other light I have turned toward the machine, it is on the Consew table. I can use it with both machines. lol My wife was even impressed with the stitching. Folks seem to have a lot of heartburn with the back-side stitches on numerous machines. They look extra nice on this one. Ferg Quote
Members Gregg From Keystone Sewing Posted March 18, 2018 Members Report Posted March 18, 2018 Thanks for the review, machine looks great. Quote Industrial sewing and cutting, parts sales and service, family owned since 1977, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania USA, 215/922.6900 info@keysew.com www.keysew.com
CowboyBob Posted March 18, 2018 Report Posted March 18, 2018 On 3/16/2018 at 7:39 PM, Ferg said: My first experience with a sewing machine was before I started grade school, almost 80 years ago. It was my mom's peddle Singer. I sewed some of her quilt patches together if I remember correctly, that didn't go over real well. Have used several home machines and just brought home my newest Leather machine yesterday. Had made arrangements with Bob Kovar ( Toledo Industrial) to have them set-up a new Cowboy 3200 for me. Bob asked if I wanted them to run through the operation, I said no. "Do you want to sew with it?" No. Bobby put the head in a box for me while we carried the remainder out to the truck. Looked it over when we got home with it. This afternoon I put my new drop down roller guide from Uwe on it, oiled and threaded it. Set the Servo to Slowwww, turned the table perpendicular to my big window in the sewing room, sunlight washing over the machine, Placed two pieces of Bridle scrap together and sewed several different length stitches. Other than needing to loosen the foot pressure a little more, it sewed perfectly. I had to sit back and admire my stitching for a few minutes. Nice machine!!!!! Anyone wishing to attach the drop down roller guide from uwe, The one he has in stock right now is a little long. I had to cut about 1/4" off one piece. Attaching the accessory bracket to the machine worked fine. The wall of the machine is only about 1/2" thick so I was a little surprised when the drill bit broke through before I got to 3/4" as suggested. Easily threaded the hole and attached the bracket. Notice I said, Hole as in one hole. Didn't drill the other hole since I have attached them before with just one bolt. Also attached the extension from Uwe for the hand lift for the foot. The machine couldn't be anymore of what I wanted. Thanks Bob and Bobby for getting it adjusted perfectly for me. I have only one gripe and it doesn't concern the machine. Suppliers on the Web advertise they have every needle ever made by so and so for the 441 clones. Not so. You will be lucky to find a half dozen different. They supply all these fancy charts with all the "Point" configurations and only have maybe four. If you are looking for a machine of this size and abilities, buy a 3200, you will never regret it. Ferg Quote Bob Kovar Toledo Industrial Sewing Machine Sales Ltd. 3631 Marine Rd Toledo,Ohio 43609 1-866-362-7397
CowboyBob Posted March 18, 2018 Report Posted March 18, 2018 Thanks for the report!Glad to see your having fun,it was great seeing you again!.Those drop down guide are pretty handy,we expect to have more in soon. Quote Bob Kovar Toledo Industrial Sewing Machine Sales Ltd. 3631 Marine Rd Toledo,Ohio 43609 1-866-362-7397
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