what machine to buy

[aguwa]

Hello everyone thank`s for letting me join I live in wakefield ma usa . I have  always tinkerd with leather, basic dog collars with rivets anyway I decided I am going to get a leather machine , I plan on sewing heavy leather bags #2 Latigo leather 7-8 oz also shooting slings out of 9-10 0z. Latigo leather and such  and bags out of softer leather as well also heavy double layer veg tan belts out of belt blanks , also wallets and what ever else I can come up with , I do have a singer year 1948 model 201-2 for lighter stuff so my question is do I get the juki 1508N or the juki 1508 H  these are the two machines I picked out after a couple of days on internet  1508 goes from #46 - #138 and the 1508H goes from #69 - #207 thread  were do I need to be I`m leaning on the 1508H but not sure if thats just the man in me lol , I will probably be getting a cowboy 3200 or 4500 in future , so  now you know what I have what I want next and were I`m gonna end , Any suggestions that would help me make my mind up would be appreciated

[Northmount]

@aguwa Really, six posts!  Please only click on the submit/post button once and wait for the server to respond.  Could be a slow network connections, slow device browser, busy server, etc.  All good things take time.  I'm deleting the other posts.

Tom

[aguwa]

Thank you for deleting them yes I figured it out , Just wait lol it takes time , I got it 

[kgg]

Hi aguwa,

I am going to suggest that you consider the Juki DNU -1541S (S denotes safety clutch mechanism) rather then the Juki 1508. There is a cost difference of about $1000 Canadian or approximately $700 US and the differences between the two series of machines from my investigating was minor. The big difference for me was the Juki 1541s is still made in Japan where as the 1508 now is made in China.

Kgg

 

[Uwe]

Just get a 441 class machine like the Cowboy 4500 and a nice flatbed attachment first. You may find it'll do everything you want to do. They're not much more expensive than the Juki flatbeds you're looking at.

Edited June 8, 2018 by Uwe

[Rolandranch]

I have the CB4500 and it has sewn through 1" of stacked leather. The Enduro servo motor I got with it is cheap so I am upgrading to a better motor. The machine is great and so far I have not had any issues with it. I hear that the cobra machines are almost the same as the cowboy machines.I would have originally gotten a smaller machine but now I'm glad I got the 4500 because it can do heavier work that I had not intended on doing earlier when I got it. I like getting quality tools so I only have to get them once... just don't get something cheap and be the guy with ten machines and none working.  

Ryan

[Matt S]

40 minutes ago, Rolandranch said:

just don't get something cheap and be the guy with ten machines and none working.

Hey, I resemble that remark! Mind you, I'm only up to 7, two do things that a 4500 can't, and most of them work just fine...

[Rolandranch]

25 minutes ago, Matt S said:

Hey, I resemble that remark! Mind you, I'm only up to 7, two do things that a 4500 can't, and most of them work just fine...

You mean there's something my 4500 CAN'T do??? Am I missing out on something?  Hey, if your machines work then more power to you... Are you sure you need ALL 7?  

[Big Sioux Saddlery]

6 minutes ago, Rolandranch said:

You mean there's something my 4500 CAN'T do??? Am I missing out on something?  Hey, if your machines work then more power to you... Are you sure you need ALL 7?  

I'm sure I don't NEED ALL 16 of mine, but I like old iron. No, they don't all sew right now, but they will some day, provided I live long enough.  I guarantee you there are things some of these old machines that are made to be harness stitchers and not just an "overgrown home sewing machine" (not my original term. . . I stole it) can do that the 4500's cannot.  And don't be offended, because I have a 4500, and I use it often, but no machine can do everything.  It just depends on what a person wants to do and where their priorities lie. 

[Matt S]

5 minutes ago, Rolandranch said:

You mean there's something my 4500 CAN'T do??? Am I missing out on something? 

Well one is a craptacular Chinese patcher which cost less than a servo motor. The other "unique capability" machine is a feed-up-the-arm zig-zag so don't feel bad, very few of these are around (probably cos nobody wants one). I'm sure your 4500 takes up less space than a single one of my 7.

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 Hey, if your machines work then more power to you... Are you sure you need ALL 7?  

Now you're starting to sound like my girlfriend! Okay so I have two flat-bed upholstery-weight machines with almost identical capabilities so I guess I could get rid of one. And maybe I don't need a flat-bed Singer 45 when my BUSM No6 does everything it can and more... This is dangerous. You'll be telling me I don't need so many guns or knives or tents soon.