Yet another which machine to buy topic

[katit]

Thanks! Markings on leather is a nono for me. I see few of those machines around with much higher prices but seems like it’s now what I need

[brmax]

Most all machines your looking for will come standard with a toothed feed dog on bottom with some finer than others but this is the norm.

I will say only the dealers around here chatting sometimes have on hand all smooth replacements if that is a need. 

 

Good day

Floyd

[katit]

Bottom is not a problem for what I need. Need to make sure top is not marked

[katit]

Still looking and learning as much as I can. Right now decision is to wait for great deal on used and if nothing by end of August - go with new. Probably P1206RB or Seiko.

While watching and reading I noticed some machines have bobbin under machine in front and some machines have it on top. Question: which is better/easier?

out of machines I watch used: 206, 211/111, 562/563, 545/1245 which one is which?

[dikman]

Top mounted bobbin is definitely easier to access!

[chrisash]

On 7/15/2018 at 5:06 PM, Wizcrafts said:

That's a hell of a deal, depending on two things. 1: The cost of the gas for the round trip. 2: If you don't mind tooth marks on the top and bottom of the leather.

#1 is what it is.

#2 could be a problem because this type of machine has synchronized top and bottom feed - where the outside foot moves with the feed dog while the needle and inside foot only move up and down. The presser and inside foot both have sharp teeth to grip difficult or slippery materials and positively drag them through. This configuration is favored among marine sewing enthusiasts where long sailcloth and boat covers often need to be repaired.

If the tooth marks on top will be a problem, ignore that dual feed Juki and restrict your search to a triple/compound feed walking foot machine.

Hi Wiz

Can you reduce the marking by adjusting the pressure foot to a optimal pressure to limit the damage or get less sharp feed

Is this a problem with just the thick leather only or both thick and thin

[katit]

11 hours ago, dikman said:

Top mounted bobbin is definitely easier to access!

I also found some info that it's better design. True/false? What machines from our list have top mounted bobbins?

[Wizcrafts]

8 hours ago, chrisash said:

Hi Wiz

Can you reduce the marking by adjusting the pressure foot to a optimal pressure to limit the damage or get less sharp feed

Is this a problem with just the thick leather only or both thick and thin

Of course the foot pressure matters! You can back it off until the leather lifts with the ascending needle. That's when you get skipped stitches.

It is a problem with all aniline, retan and veg-tan leathers. It is not usually a problem on chrome tan. The basic rule is: if the leather has a memory and holds impressions, don't use a top tooth feeder. Or, if you do, learn to either rub out, or explain away the tooth marks.

[Uwe]

All in the list except the Consew 206RB design have vertical axis hooks. If there's a rectangular slide cover plate to the right of the feet, then it has a vertical axis hook.

[katit]

4 hours ago, Uwe said:

All in the list except the Consew 206RB design have vertical axis hooks. If there's a rectangular slide cover plate to the right of the feet, then it has a vertical axis hook.

Uwe, please check your messages