Members Hildebrand Posted October 15, 2018 Members Report Posted October 15, 2018 I just placed my order with Bob for a Cowboy 4500. I have watched most of the YouTube videos. One thing I haven’t seen addressed is do you have to back stitch to lock it when you start sewing? Everyone just holds the threads and starts sewing. Back stitching to lock to finish is shown often but never to start. Thank you for your help. Todd Quote
garypl Posted October 15, 2018 Report Posted October 15, 2018 I back stitch 3 stitches at the beginning and end... Gary Quote Cowboy 4500, Consew 206RB-4
DonInReno Posted October 16, 2018 Report Posted October 16, 2018 Congrats on the new machine! A big stitcher opens up so many options for cool stuff that everyone should own one at one time or another. Lol Sometimes it’s a choice to pull the top thread down and hand tie to lock the beginning and end for appearance. Other times you may not backstitch starting out if the end of the stitch overlaps the beginning, or if the design covers the beginning with another sewn piece that effectively locks the piece underneath. Quote
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted October 16, 2018 Moderator Report Posted October 16, 2018 Sometimes, if I only want one set of stitches to show, I set my stitch lever to zero and simply run two stitches into the same hole to start sewing. Then I drop the lever to the preset length until I reach the end. I usually do the same trick at the end of these jobs. Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Members Joon1911 Posted October 16, 2018 Members Report Posted October 16, 2018 Wiz, I’ve never heard anyone describe this technique before. What does dropping two stitches in the same hole accomplish? Is there any downside to this technique if it is effectively invisible? Quote "Make every product better than its ever been done before. Make the parts you cannot see as well as the parts you can see. Use only the best materials, even for the most everyday items. Give the same attention to the smallest detail as you do to the largest. Design every item you make to last forever." -Shaker Philosophy of Furniture Making
alpha2 Posted October 16, 2018 Report Posted October 16, 2018 Nice tip, Wiz! Thanks. Jeff Quote So much leather...so little time.
Contributing Member JLSleather Posted October 16, 2018 Contributing Member Report Posted October 16, 2018 without something to grip on, how does it make a knot? Weird -- ... Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted October 16, 2018 Moderator Report Posted October 16, 2018 3 hours ago, Joon1911 said: Wiz, I’ve never heard anyone describe this technique before. What does dropping two stitches in the same hole accomplish? Is there any downside to this technique if it is effectively invisible? Double stitching into the same hole pulls two lockstitch knots up into the layers, tightly against each other, filling the hole. In my experience, those knots are forever locked in place unless you get a grip on the bottom thread and yank the bottom knot out. If your top tension and hole size is just right, you won't see the knots from either side and they won't move at all. I do this mostly on holsters where a second row of #277 or #346 stitches might be unsightly, or the reverse sewing might not line up perfectly with the starting stitches. It does require a little more foot pressure to ensure that the leather stays down on the second upstroke in the same hole. It also requires a little practice to set the stitch lever in the zero position. Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
garypl Posted October 17, 2018 Report Posted October 17, 2018 This sounds interesting Wiz - I will give it a try! Gary Quote Cowboy 4500, Consew 206RB-4
Members Joon1911 Posted October 19, 2018 Members Report Posted October 19, 2018 On 10/16/2018 at 12:15 PM, Wizcrafts said: Double stitching into the same hole pulls two lockstitch knots up into the layers, tightly against each other, filling the hole. In my experience, those knots are forever locked in place unless you get a grip on the bottom thread and yank the bottom knot out. If your top tension and hole size is just right, you won't see the knots from either side and they won't move at all. I do this mostly on holsters where a second row of #277 or #346 stitches might be unsightly, or the reverse sewing might not line up perfectly with the starting stitches. It does require a little more foot pressure to ensure that the leather stays down on the second upstroke in the same hole. It also requires a little practice to set the stitch lever in the zero position. Wiz: I love that this sight always gives little nuggets of wisdom. I'm gonna give this a whirl! Quote "Make every product better than its ever been done before. Make the parts you cannot see as well as the parts you can see. Use only the best materials, even for the most everyday items. Give the same attention to the smallest detail as you do to the largest. Design every item you make to last forever." -Shaker Philosophy of Furniture Making
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