ABHandmade Report post Posted March 16, 2019 Some time ago I started having problems with access to https://www.tandyleather.com/ (https://www.tandyleather.ca/, https://www.tandyleather.eu/ - same) Error 403 Forbidden The problem is constant and repeated over several days. I wanted to ask, is it only when trying to enter the site from Ukraine or someone has the same situation? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bermudahwin Report post Posted March 16, 2019 I went straight in from UK, into.eu site. H Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ABHandmade Report post Posted March 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, hwinbermuda said: I went straight in from UK, into.eu site. H Thanks! It seems that this is a deliberate blockage. How to explain Tandy that Ukraine is not Russia? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikesc Report post Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) Both work from France..Just accessed them .. Try using a proxy based outside the Ukraine..That will let you know if they are blocking Ukraine IPs.. Try using a Russian proxy..might be they are just blocking the Ukraine .. Why they'd block either is a mystery.. Edited March 16, 2019 by mikesc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ABHandmade Report post Posted March 16, 2019 15 minutes ago, mikesc said: Both work from France..Just accessed them .. Try using a proxy based outside the Ukraine..That will let you know if they are blocking Ukraine IPs.. Try using a Russian proxy..might be they are just blocking the Ukraine .. Why they'd block either is a mystery.. Thank you, Mike. I tried to log in through a proxy (Germany and the USA) - everything works. What Ukraine is guilty? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikesc Report post Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) What Ukraine is guilty? :( Like Chris said..blame it on Brexit.. OT / Co-incidentally enough Andrey..when you posted about being "blocked" above, your post count was 403 :) Now you are 404.. :) Pay close attention to any noises coming from your computer lest you go 410 :)..when did you last clear out the dust bunnies.. How does one say "dust bunnies" in Ukrainian ?..In French they are called "moutons" ( sheep ).. :) Edited March 16, 2019 by mikesc speeling Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alpha2 Report post Posted March 16, 2019 If only we could convince Russia that Ukraine isn't Russia. 25 minutes ago, ABHandmade said: Thanks! It seems that this is a deliberate blockage. How to explain Tandy that Ukraine is not Russia? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ABHandmade Report post Posted March 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, mikesc said: Like Chris said..blame it on Brexit.. OT / Co-incidentally enough Andrey..when you posted about being "blocked" above, your post count was 403 Now your are 404.. Pay close attention to any noises coming from your computer lest you go 410..when did you last clear out the dust bunnies.. How does one say "dust bunnies" in Ukrainian ?..In French they are called "moutons" ( sheep ).. Yes, I haven't vacuumed my laptop for quite a while. Need to do. Thanks for the warning And as for dust bunnies, I can’t even remember a special word in Ukrainian for that. Well, except that the word dust is "poroh". 16 minutes ago, alpha2 said: If only we could convince Russia that Ukraine isn't Russia. Sir, the USA is doing quite a lot in this direction, for which the Ukrainians are very grateful. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bermudahwin Report post Posted March 16, 2019 I'm going off topic Dust bunnies in other than English https://forum.unilang.org/viewtopic.php?t=18865 H Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikesc Report post Posted March 16, 2019 Specialty:Various..and "topic drift" Thus..Murky Buckets..H :) Takes my mind off watching Wales leading Ireland 10-0..( now 13-10 :(( ) To return to Topic..Tandy HQ is in the USA and is shut weekends..I did phone Canada about an hour ago ( who are open today ) to see if they knew of any policy that says that Tandy as an organisation are blocking the Ukraine..Very polite guy there at the shop ..does not know..Says only HQ would know.. I can phone and ask them* ( Tandy HQ in Fort Worth TX ) when they are open next week .. *No problem..Unlimited worldwide ( with the exception of a handful of countries ) calls and data plans on my phones..fixed lines and cells.. Point them to this thread..and to Andrey's work https://leatherworker.net/forum/topic/85137-mountain-lion-for-my-wife/?tab=comments#comment-577226 ( I'm sure they'd like him to be using some of their leather to work on ) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bermudahwin Report post Posted March 16, 2019 1 minute ago, mikesc said: Takes my mind off watching Wales leading Ireland 10-0..( now 13-10 :(( ) I'm watching too, I am in the unbelievable position of wanting an Ireland win, followed by an England win. H Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ABHandmade Report post Posted March 16, 2019 36 minutes ago, mikesc said: I can phone and ask them* ( Tandy HQ in Fort Worth TX ) when they are open next week .. Mike, I did not even count on such a radical way of solving the issue Thanks!!! I am definitely not a valuable customer for Tandy (most of my purchases are books and some tools). But in Ukraine there are a sufficient number of people working with leather, who, I think, will be glad of the possibility of continuing their purchases through website TandyLeather. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bermudahwin Report post Posted March 16, 2019 Two ideas, try using duck duck go to search and go in com there, Try using the cached page search with Google, it may get you in. Ok third idea, try a different web browser. And a fourth, try a smartphone or tablet, rather than a computer, or vice versa. H Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcuk Report post Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) Same here H going from bad to worse, oh well nothing a cold beer can't help Roll on the Cricket, Ashes year should be fun. Edited March 16, 2019 by jcuk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ABHandmade Report post Posted March 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, hwinbermuda said: Ok third idea, try a different web browser. And a fourth, try a smartphone or tablet, rather than a computer, or vice versa. I get 403 error both on my work computer and at home. And on the smartphone too - both in network at work and at home. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bermudahwin Report post Posted March 16, 2019 That's me out of suggestions, sorry H Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bermudahwin Report post Posted March 16, 2019 https://www.lifewire.com/403-forbidden-error-explained-2617989 Has a number of suggestions to rectify it; use basic address not a folder; clean cookies etc. H Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billybopp Report post Posted March 16, 2019 It may well not be Tandy that is blocking access... It could be your country. That has been known to happen! - Bill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ABHandmade Report post Posted March 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, billybopp said: It may well not be Tandy that is blocking access... It could be your country. That has been known to happen! - Bill Judging by the trace, the problem is on his side. Трассировка маршрута к tandyleather.com [52.201.44.148] с максимальным числом прыжков 30: 1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx 2 3 ms 4 ms 3 ms xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx 3 3 ms 6 ms 4 ms 91.196.148.30 4 4 ms 3 ms 3 ms v1040.luna-sw.kv.wnet.ua [128.0.175.222] 5 4 ms 5 ms 4 ms te0-7-0-32.890.rcr21.kbp01.atlas.cogentco.com [149.6.190.225] 6 23 ms 21 ms 22 ms be2046.ccr21.bts01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.58.245] 7 28 ms 27 ms 28 ms be3044.ccr21.prg01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.59.97] 8 36 ms 36 ms 37 ms be3027.ccr41.ham01.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.1.205] 9 44 ms 45 ms 44 ms be2815.ccr41.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.38.205] 10 128 ms 129 ms 129 ms be12194.ccr41.lon13.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.56.93] 11 131 ms 129 ms 131 ms be3487.ccr51.lhr01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.60.6] 12 127 ms 128 ms 130 ms be2391.ccr21.lpl01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.39.150] 13 128 ms 134 ms 130 ms be3042.ccr21.ymq01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.44.162] 14 128 ms 128 ms 128 ms be2088.ccr21.alb02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.43.18] 15 129 ms 129 ms 130 ms be2915.ccr41.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.40.62] 16 209 ms 128 ms 129 ms be3495.ccr31.jfk10.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.182] 17 130 ms 139 ms 131 ms 38.140.106.162 18 * * * Превышен интервал ожидания для запроса. 19 * * * Превышен интервал ожидания для запроса. 20 * * * Превышен интервал ожидания для запроса. ... 13 minutes ago, hwinbermuda said: https://www.lifewire.com/403-forbidden-error-explained-2617989 Has a number of suggestions to rectify it; use basic address not a folder; clean cookies etc. H Based on the fact that everything from other countries works fine, and with me, when using a proxy, too, it’s very similar to blocking by the IP group associated with the country. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikesc Report post Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) Yep.."Geo Block" Blocking.. I 'll ask why..sometimes it can just be a sysadmin who isn't precise enough about what ranges are allocated to who.. Or who just thinks that they won't get any customers from "X" and so blocks "X" to save bandwidth ( 403 isn't many bytes, but if that is the intention there are better ways to do it "upstream") or protect against perceived risk of "intruders" .. FWIW..tracepath ( from line 10 onwards ) ( including the cogent lines ) 10: be4204.ccr31.par04.atlas.cogentco.com 16.124ms asymm 7 11: be3184.ccr42.par01.atlas.cogentco.com 16.050ms asymm 8 12: be3627.ccr41.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com 87.310ms asymm 9 13: be3496.ccr31.jfk10.atlas.cogentco.com 85.888ms asymm 10 14: 38.140.107.42 87.311ms asymm 12 15: 52.93.31.55 91.828ms 16: 52.93.4.28 88.812ms asymm 13 17: no reply 18: 54.240.229.141 93.797ms asymm 27 19: no reply 20: no reply 21: no reply 22: no reply 15: 52.93.31.57 18319.374ms 15: 52.93.31.41 18240.403ms 25: no reply 26: no reply 27: no reply 28: no reply 29: no reply 30: no reply Too many hops: pmtu 1500 Resume: pmtu 1500 The .eu is being served from the same IP as the .com. I'm getting accepted in to both sites.. If they are running a Geo IP ban.intentionally ( might be that they need to update their tables GEO IP list, or up/grade/date their feed if they are using something like maxmind's paid feed, if it is unintentional ) , then they probably would not send items to your country either.. Edited March 16, 2019 by mikesc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark842 Report post Posted March 16, 2019 16 minutes ago, mikesc said: then they probably would not send items to your country either.. That would be my worry. I'd be wary of placing an order with them using a proxy till you know for sure they will ship to you. I've played that game before and had my money tied up for a few weeks before they refunded. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rockoboy Report post Posted March 18, 2019 On 3/17/2019 at 12:10 AM, jcuk said: Roll on the Cricket, Ashes year should be fun. Fun for the Aussies you mean! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bermudahwin Report post Posted March 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Rockoboy said: Fun for the Aussies you mean! Will they be turning up too? I'd rather hoped 4-0 last time would leave them with no sport, so they'd send out the juniors. H Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rockoboy Report post Posted March 18, 2019 Touche'! I hope they leave the sandpaper in the workshop this time! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcuk Report post Posted March 18, 2019 Can't wait for the on field (sledging) and off field banter plenty of ammo here, love listening to the coverage BBC radio 5 sport while working away great chat and banter on there. Really like working away when its on hopefully weather will be kind, windows and door open in the the workshop. all the best JCUK Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
