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Some time ago I started having problems with access to https://www.tandyleather.com/ (https://www.tandyleather.ca/, https://www.tandyleather.eu/ - same)
Error 403 Forbidden
The problem is constant and repeated over several days.
I wanted to ask, is it only when trying to enter the site from Ukraine or someone has the same situation?

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I went straight in from UK, into.eu site.

H

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2 minutes ago, hwinbermuda said:

I went straight in from UK, into.eu site.

H

Thanks!

It seems that this is a deliberate blockage.
How to explain Tandy that Ukraine is not Russia? :)

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Both work from France..Just accessed them ..

Try using a proxy based outside the Ukraine..That will let you know if they are blocking Ukraine IPs..

Try using a Russian proxy..might be they are just blocking the Ukraine ..

Why they'd block either is a mystery..

Edited by mikesc

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15 minutes ago, mikesc said:

Both work from France..Just accessed them ..

Try using a proxy based outside the Ukraine..That will let you know if they are blocking Ukraine IPs..

Try using a Russian proxy..might be they are just blocking the Ukraine ..

Why they'd block either is a mystery..

Thank you, Mike.
I tried to log in through a proxy (Germany and the USA) - everything works.
What Ukraine is guilty? :(

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What Ukraine is guilty? :(




Like Chris said..blame it on Brexit..
OT / Co-incidentally enough Andrey..when you posted about being "blocked" above, your post count was 403 :)
Now you are 404.. :)
Pay close attention to any noises coming from your computer lest you go 410 :)..when did you last clear out the dust bunnies..
How does one say "dust bunnies" in Ukrainian ?..In French they are called "moutons" ( sheep ).. :)

Edited by mikesc
speeling

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If only we could convince Russia that Ukraine isn't Russia. 

25 minutes ago, ABHandmade said:

Thanks!

It seems that this is a deliberate blockage.
How to explain Tandy that Ukraine is not Russia? :)

 

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10 minutes ago, mikesc said:

Like Chris said..blame it on Brexit..
OT / Co-incidentally enough Andrey..when you posted about being "blocked" above, your post count was 403 :)
Now your are 404..
Pay close attention to any noises coming from your computer lest you go 410..when did you last clear out the dust bunnies..
How does one say "dust bunnies" in Ukrainian ?..In French they are called "moutons" ( sheep ).. :)

:)

Yes, I haven't vacuumed my laptop for quite a while. Need to do. Thanks for the warning :)
And as for dust bunnies, I can’t even remember a special word in Ukrainian for that. Well, except that the word dust is "poroh".

16 minutes ago, alpha2 said:

If only we could convince Russia that Ukraine isn't Russia. 

 

Sir, the USA is doing quite a lot in this direction, for which the Ukrainians are very grateful.

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Specialty:Various..and "topic drift"


Thus..Murky Buckets..H :)
Takes my mind off watching Wales leading Ireland 10-0..( now 13-10 :(( )

To return to Topic..Tandy HQ is in the USA and is shut weekends..I did phone Canada about an hour ago ( who are open today ) to see if they knew of any policy that says that Tandy as an organisation are blocking the Ukraine..Very polite guy there at the shop ..does not know..Says only HQ would know..

I can phone and ask them* ( Tandy HQ in Fort Worth TX ) when they are open next week ..

*No problem..Unlimited worldwide ( with the exception of a handful of countries ) calls and data plans on my phones..fixed lines and cells..

Point them to this thread..and to Andrey's work
https://leatherworker.net/forum/topic/85137-mountain-lion-for-my-wife/?tab=comments#comment-577226
( I'm sure they'd like him to be using some of their leather to work on )

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1 minute ago, mikesc said:

Takes my mind off watching Wales leading Ireland 10-0..( now 13-10 :(( )

I'm watching too,

I am in the unbelievable position of wanting an Ireland win, followed by an England win. :wacko:

H

 

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36 minutes ago, mikesc said:

I can phone and ask them* ( Tandy HQ in Fort Worth TX ) when they are open next week ..

Mike, I did not even count on such a radical way of solving the issue :) Thanks!!!

I am definitely not a valuable customer for Tandy (most of my purchases are books and some tools).
But in Ukraine there are a sufficient number of people working with leather, who, I think, will be glad of the possibility of continuing their purchases through website TandyLeather.

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Two ideas, try using duck duck go to search and go in com there,

Try using the cached page search with Google, it may get you in.

Ok third idea, try a different web browser.

And a fourth, try a smartphone or tablet, rather than a computer, or vice versa.

H

 

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Same here H going from bad to worse, oh well nothing a cold beer can't help

Roll on the Cricket, Ashes year should be fun.

Edited by jcuk

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6 minutes ago, hwinbermuda said:

Ok third idea, try a different web browser.

And a fourth, try a smartphone or tablet, rather than a computer, or vice versa.

I get 403 error both on my work computer and at home. And on the smartphone too - both in network at work and at home.

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That's me out of suggestions, sorry

H

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It may well not be Tandy that is blocking access... It could be your country.   That has been known to happen!

- Bill

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2 minutes ago, billybopp said:

It may well not be Tandy that is blocking access... It could be your country.   That has been known to happen!

- Bill

Judging by the trace, the problem is on his side.

Трассировка маршрута к tandyleather.com [52.201.44.148]
с максимальным числом прыжков 30:

  1     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx 
  2     3 ms     4 ms     3 ms  xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx 
  3     3 ms     6 ms     4 ms  91.196.148.30 
  4     4 ms     3 ms     3 ms  v1040.luna-sw.kv.wnet.ua [128.0.175.222] 
  5     4 ms     5 ms     4 ms  te0-7-0-32.890.rcr21.kbp01.atlas.cogentco.com [149.6.190.225] 
  6    23 ms    21 ms    22 ms  be2046.ccr21.bts01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.58.245] 
  7    28 ms    27 ms    28 ms  be3044.ccr21.prg01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.59.97] 
  8    36 ms    36 ms    37 ms  be3027.ccr41.ham01.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.1.205] 
  9    44 ms    45 ms    44 ms  be2815.ccr41.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.38.205] 
 10   128 ms   129 ms   129 ms  be12194.ccr41.lon13.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.56.93] 
 11   131 ms   129 ms   131 ms  be3487.ccr51.lhr01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.60.6] 
 12   127 ms   128 ms   130 ms  be2391.ccr21.lpl01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.39.150] 
 13   128 ms   134 ms   130 ms  be3042.ccr21.ymq01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.44.162] 
 14   128 ms   128 ms   128 ms  be2088.ccr21.alb02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.43.18] 
 15   129 ms   129 ms   130 ms  be2915.ccr41.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.40.62] 
 16   209 ms   128 ms   129 ms  be3495.ccr31.jfk10.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.182] 
 17   130 ms   139 ms   131 ms  38.140.106.162 
 18     *        *        *     Превышен интервал ожидания для запроса.
 19     *        *        *     Превышен интервал ожидания для запроса.
 20     *        *        *     Превышен интервал ожидания для запроса.

...

13 minutes ago, hwinbermuda said:

https://www.lifewire.com/403-forbidden-error-explained-2617989

Has a number of suggestions to rectify it; use basic address not a folder; clean cookies etc.

H

Based on the fact that everything from other countries works fine, and with me, when using a proxy, too, it’s very similar to blocking by the IP group associated with the country.

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Yep.."Geo Block" Blocking..
I 'll ask why..sometimes it can just be a sysadmin who isn't precise enough about what ranges are allocated to who..
Or who just thinks that they won't get any customers from "X" and so blocks "X" to save bandwidth ( 403 isn't many bytes, but if that is the intention there are better ways to do it "upstream") or protect against perceived risk of "intruders" ..
FWIW..tracepath ( from line 10 onwards ) ( including the cogent lines )

10: be4204.ccr31.par04.atlas.cogentco.com 16.124ms asymm 7
11: be3184.ccr42.par01.atlas.cogentco.com 16.050ms asymm 8
12: be3627.ccr41.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com 87.310ms asymm 9
13: be3496.ccr31.jfk10.atlas.cogentco.com 85.888ms asymm 10
14: 38.140.107.42 87.311ms asymm 12
15: 52.93.31.55 91.828ms
16: 52.93.4.28 88.812ms asymm 13
17: no reply
18: 54.240.229.141 93.797ms asymm 27
19: no reply
20: no reply
21: no reply
22: no reply
15: 52.93.31.57 18319.374ms
15: 52.93.31.41 18240.403ms
25: no reply
26: no reply
27: no reply
28: no reply
29: no reply
30: no reply
Too many hops: pmtu 1500
Resume: pmtu 1500

The .eu is being served from the same IP as the .com.
I'm getting accepted in to both sites..

If they are running a Geo IP ban.intentionally ( might be that they need to update their tables GEO IP list, or up/grade/date their feed if they are using something like maxmind's paid feed, if it is unintentional ) , then they probably would not send items to your country either..

Edited by mikesc

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16 minutes ago, mikesc said:

then they probably would not send items to your country either..

That would be my worry. I'd be wary of placing an order with them using a proxy till you know for sure they will ship to you. I've played that game before and had my money tied up for a few weeks before they refunded.

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On ‎3‎/‎17‎/‎2019 at 12:10 AM, jcuk said:

Roll on the Cricket, Ashes year should be fun.

Fun for the Aussies you mean! :yeah:

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4 minutes ago, Rockoboy said:

Fun for the Aussies you mean! :yeah:

Will they be turning up too? I'd rather hoped 4-0 last time would leave them with no sport, so they'd send out the juniors.

:deadsubject:

H

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Touche'! :blush:

I hope they leave the sandpaper in the workshop this time!

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Can't wait for the on field (sledging) and off field banter plenty of ammo here, love listening to the coverage  BBC radio 5 sport while working away great chat and banter on there. Really like working away when its on hopefully weather will be kind, windows and door open in the the workshop.

all the best

JCUK   

 

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