Members Jazznow Posted May 12, 2019 Members Report Posted May 12, 2019 (edited) yeah im gonna stitch 2.5 up to 10 mm vegtan. for thinner material i have another machine. If it does not stitch 2.5mm proper it's the wrong machine for me, and I'd like to know that before buying. I was Looking into this because it does not Need much space. Space is very limited and i just cant make room for another big sewing machine table. It mayy not be the most efficient way, but more efficient than handstitching. Edited May 12, 2019 by Jazznow Quote
bikermutt07 Posted May 12, 2019 Report Posted May 12, 2019 Well, it looks like @CowboyBob or somebody is going to maybe have to pony up a machine for a review? Or contact a customer who has purchased one and ask them to do a review. I have seen this question asked several times already. On this site as well as a few Facebook forums I'm a member of. I'm certainly not the person to give a review of it, but I'm sure there is someone out there worthy of doing an independent review. I see people ready to spend money, but they are having a time commiting to this new platform. In this digital world we are living in, people just aren't spending big dollars without researching first. With no independent reviews, they will spend elsewhere. This may be a consideration for future r&d budgets? Just some food for thought... Quote I'm not paying 80 bucks for a belt!!! It's a strip of leather. How hard could it be? 4 years and 3 grand later.... I have a belt I can finally live with. Stitching is like gravy, it's only great if you make it every day. From Texas but in Bossier City, Louisiana.
Members Matt S Posted May 12, 2019 Members Report Posted May 12, 2019 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Jazznow said: yeah im gonna stitch 2.5 up to 10 mm vegtan. for thinner material i have another machine. I was Looking into this because it does not Need much space. Space is very limited and i just cant make room for another big sewing machine table. It mayy not be the most efficient way, but more efficient than handstitching. I have had a manual machine similar to the Outlaw in the past, and if you're doing it for anything more than an occasional hobby piece every now and then it gets old real fast. Heck currently I have a treadle-powered BUSM6, which can comfortably do over a hundred stitches per minute and a batch of belts gets tedious very fast. If you're going to do more than a handful of items every now and then, or if you're charging for your time, my advice would be to find or make the space for a motorised machine. You can get a short-arm Juki 441 clone equiv to the CB3200 from Sieck for €1700+VAT http://www.sieck.de/en/machines/sewing/arm-type-machines/?produkt=5562 (probably worth upgrading to a servo motor and having it put on a pedestal stand though). Edited May 12, 2019 by Matt S Quote
Members Jazznow Posted May 12, 2019 Members Report Posted May 12, 2019 thanks for the replies so far. I wont use it often enough to justify spending more Money on an Electric machine and making my Tiny Workspace even more cramped. Its a not a Question if i Need this one or an Electric. IF i get a machine, ill get this Tiny Thing thatll just be bolted on a Corner of my workbench. but i only get it, if someone can assure me, that it will sew 2.5mm vegtan too. if it doesnt ill just stick to handstitching or avoid stitching by using my stitchless bag designs. Quote
bikermutt07 Posted May 13, 2019 Report Posted May 13, 2019 (edited) Just call cowboy Bob or Alexander at solar leather. They will give you an honest answer to your question. I have never heard of them steering anyone the wrong way. Edited May 13, 2019 by bikermutt07 Quote I'm not paying 80 bucks for a belt!!! It's a strip of leather. How hard could it be? 4 years and 3 grand later.... I have a belt I can finally live with. Stitching is like gravy, it's only great if you make it every day. From Texas but in Bossier City, Louisiana.
Members Mudguts Posted May 15, 2019 Members Report Posted May 15, 2019 (edited) Hi I’m over here in the uk I have a cowboy 3200 that I converted to hand operation as I’m tight on space in my workshop. All I done was turned the flywheel round and fitted a Handel . I’ve had no problems with it and it will stitch through 12mm veg tan by hand operation no problem . The only thing you might find when stitching heavy veg tan is anything over around 6mm thick the first couple of stitches might need a good forcefully turn but once going at a steady rhythm there’s no problems and you soon get used to it . The machine itself is quite heavy to move around but if you plan to fit it to your bench there’s no problem . In all a top machine . And back stitches spot on . Ps I also have a hand operated conversion on a singer 45k that works ok but the cowboy 3200 knocks spots off it in performance . Hope this helps Paul . Edited May 15, 2019 by Mudguts Quote
Members Mudguts Posted May 15, 2019 Members Report Posted May 15, 2019 Hi again just a quick update and my personal opinion for anyone thinking of getting a cowboy 3200 and converting to hand operation . they are quite simple and straightforward to set up and use . I’ve had no problems using my 3200 and it has never missed a stitch . Is happy using a quite heavy thread if required. And there is also a good parts and extra fittings back up on them . Hope this helps anyone thinking of getting one of the cowboy 3200 Quote
Members chrisash Posted May 15, 2019 Members Report Posted May 15, 2019 How about some photo's Quote Mi omputer is ot ood at speeling , it's not me
Members Mudguts Posted May 15, 2019 Members Report Posted May 15, 2019 Hi I will try to get some photos of my cowboy 3200 on here for you but I’m new to messaging on this site and haven’t be able to work out how to do it yet as it keeps saying it’s to many MB’s when I try to send pictures. but when I do find out how to do it I’ll put some on . Ok Paul Quote
Members Mudguts Posted May 15, 2019 Members Report Posted May 15, 2019 (edited) Hi again I think I have worked out how to send photos now so I will take some photos of my cowboy 3200 and put them on for you later .ok Paul ps the photos I have tested it with is a few cartridge bags and motorcycle saddle I made and stitched up on my hand powered cowboy 3200 machine . Edited May 15, 2019 by Mudguts Quote
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