Use of Fur Banned

[Tinkerton]

For those wondering, here is a link to the actual bill. https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200AB44

[Tinkerton]

If I understand the bill correctly, it's mostly the finished products that will be banned. The hair on skins of livestock and deer are still permitted, as well as any leather where the hair has been removed. Trappers will still be able to legally sell the pelts of their catch, as long as they keep record of what and to whom it was sold for at least a year. Aboriginals will still be able to use fur products for cultural/religious purposes. Taxidermy is still permitted.

To my understanding, it's goal is mostly to curb the use of exotics and fur farms, as most of those come from overseas and is very difficult to determine the humaneness of the conditions of said products.

[LatigoAmigo]

6 hours ago, Handstitched said:

 I know you got this from the media, but what is the difference ?  A ' fur product' is just a 'leather  product'  with hair on, just the tanning process is different to remove the hair , and different parts of the skin goes through different tanning processes to turn it into different grades, types,  colours etc. 

Here is the section of the bill referencing leather, I hope it might clear up your questions:

(B) “Fur product” does not include any of the following:

(i) A dog or cat fur product, as defined in Section 1308 of Title 19 of the United States Code, as that section read on January 1, 2020.

(ii) An animal skin or part thereof that is to be converted into leather, which in processing will have the hair, fleece, or fur fiber completely removed.

(iii) Cowhide with hair attached thereto.

(iv) Deerskin, sheepskin, or goatskin with hair attached thereto.

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Please remember, we as Californians did not vote on this bill, it was passed by our legislature and signed by our governor.

[Sheilajeanne]

This makes NO sense! Some of the most inhumane uses of dog fur comes from Asian countries, where the animals are slaughtered for their meat, then the fur used to trim garments that are sold overseas. Sometimes the fur is falsely labelled as being from another animal, (e.g. a coyote or wolf.)

[Handstitched]

21 hours ago, Sheilajeanne said:

Apparently, cane toads can even kill huge salt water crocodiles, if they eat enough of them!!  That's some SERIOUS toxin they produce!

Yep, its a  pretty darn strong toxin alright. It kills a wide variety of native fauna.  It can sometimes be used as a narcotic....

 

.....um ..*gross warning* ...

 

.....people  lick them . Dogs are even known to get hooked on the toxin ( and end up at the vet no doubt)  as it gives off a 'high' ,according to Queensland locals that I've spoken to. 

But this is going off topic. I prefer making Cane Toad leather goods out of them . And besides, I much prefer a cold beer to get my... ' high'  

HS

[Sheilajeanne]

4 minutes ago, Handstitched said:

Yep, its a  pretty darn strong toxin alright. It kills a wide variety of native fauna.  It can sometimes be used as a narcotic....

 

.....um ..*gross warning* ...

 

.....people  lick them . Dogs are even known to get hooked on the toxin ( and end up at the vet no doubt)  as it gives off a 'high' ,according to Queensland locals that I've spoken to. 

But this is going off topic. I prefer making Cane Toad leather goods out of them . And besides, I much prefer a cold beer to get my... ' high'  

HS

I second that emotion!!    Yup, nice cold one...

They have invaded Hawaii, too. I saw an episode of Dog the Bounty Hunter where they nearly lost one of their dogs to a cane toad! It was almost totally paralyzed!

[Handstitched]

Thats where Queensland got them from, I think.  Some silly politicians thought it was a good idea to bring them in....not. 

Read all about it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cane_toad

Theres a lot to read . 

HS 

[BridleButt]

I made a nice elephant wallet some years ago that I still use. On a business trip to San Diego, a Starbucks server refused to hand my coffee over when I pulled out my wallet to pay. It’s like a banana republic in Cally. 

[Handstitched]

Over 15 years ago, I bought a leather ' bum bag' for about $5.00  from an *op shop  for my fledgling business.

*You call them  'thrift shops' ...  I think? 

I was a little suss when I noticed the label on the inside was removed. My suspicions were correct  when I found a wallet ( in My Shed of Junk)  that a mate bought me some years earlier that matched the leather on my ' bum bag' ....it was elephant hide .   After 15-16 years of use, I think I might change it...eh? 

We just don't know how these animals died or how it they were  treated. They  could have been 'responsibly sourced' or...... ?? 

This could open up a can of worms.

HS 

[chrisash]

I would guess they are made from asian Elephants who have died of old age, my reasoning is the far east has tanners and lots of working Elephants whilst in Africa most are slaughtered for their tusks and left to rot where they die