Members Wykoni Posted December 27, 2019 Members Report Posted December 27, 2019 Looking for a quality steel diamond awl. Have used some Japanese stuff that’s been pretty good but just wondering who is the market leader for quality thanks Quote
Members chrisash Posted December 27, 2019 Members Report Posted December 27, 2019 I doubt there is much difference in the awl blades themselves apart from the very low cost ones, But if your inclined to be impressed by a wooden handle, you can spend a small fortune on exotic wood and shape Quote Mi omputer is ot ood at speeling , it's not me
Members Tugadude Posted December 27, 2019 Members Report Posted December 27, 2019 I assume you are meaning the blade itself and not the haft? The blades from Barry King get good reviews. Douglas used to be noted for quality, but availability is questionable. Most any awl blade of decent quality can be made into a workable tool with proper sharpening and polishing. There are youtube guides from Nigel Armitage and others that show techniques for fashioning a good awl. Quote
Members paloma Posted December 27, 2019 Members Report Posted December 27, 2019 (edited) For me it's this guy: jerome.david569@orange.fr these awls are simply....perfect.it's already coming sharp ready. one for saddlery one for leather goods making Edited December 27, 2019 by paloma Quote time does not respect what is done without it https://tradisign.blogspot.com https://www.instagram.com/tradisign/
Members zuludog Posted December 27, 2019 Members Report Posted December 27, 2019 (edited) Have you heard of 'The Law of Diminishing Returns' ? Put simply, it means that you can do the basics of a job - like making an awl - quite easily and cheaply, but to get better, and better, and ultimately the best possible results you must spend more and more time, effort and money for progressively smaller and smaller improvements Traditionally, if you want an awl, you would buy the blade and haft separately, then mount them and sharpen the blade yourself. This keeps the cost down as you are doing most of the work yourself, but it's a right pain and takes a long time As far as I can gather, top end makers buy good quality blades from people like John James or Vergez Blanchard, then do that sharpening for you. The blades are fairly cheap, what you're paying for is the time, effort, and skill. Having made a sharp blade it makes sense to present it nicely. You can buy a haft for <£5; The wood will probably be beech, and the ferrule will be drawn aluminium or brass tube. A top end haft would typically be some sort of exotic hardwood and a machined ferrule, which all adds to the cost. It won't do the job any better, it just looks more impressive I've had awl blades by John James and Tandy - individual 'proper' blades, not the infamous 4-in-1. I had to mount them, and they took ages to sharpen. A few months ago I bought an Osborne blade, and to be fair, that only needed an hour to sharpen & polish. Knocking it into a haft was fiddly, and I couldn't get it straight, so after a couple of attempts I drilled the haft and set the blade in with epoxy glue. When & if I ever buy another awl I'll probably get an Osborne blade, and a haft with some kind of chuck or clamp A typical price for an Osborne haft with a chuck is about £12, and a blade is about £9 ( I haven't been able to find prices in $ but they won't be much different) A Vergez Blanchard awl & haft ready mounted is about $24. A Barry King haft is about $55, and a blade is about $25, so the question you must ask yourself is - am I willing to pay $80 or more for something that might be a slight improvement? Edited December 27, 2019 by zuludog Quote
Members Arturomex Posted December 27, 2019 Members Report Posted December 27, 2019 I like the Osborne No. 145 sewing awl haft. Not jazzy but I like the way it fits my hand and it works for me. I'm on the same page as zuludog; it takes me about an hour to sharpen and polish an Orborne blade to my liking. I paid $24.00 CDN for the haft and $10.00 CDN per for blades. I suspect I could probably get the blades for less if I shopped harder. Leather Wranglers has a little video here showing what a well sharpened and polished Osborne blade can/should do for you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARvDZoOZGLs&feature=youtu.be Regards, Arturo Quote
480volt Posted December 27, 2019 Report Posted December 27, 2019 9 hours ago, Tugadude said: Douglas used to be noted for quality, but availability is questionable. As far as I know, Bob is still making tools. His awl blades come sharp and mirror polished.He also makes hafts but I find the size a little large for my preference. Quote
Members paloma Posted December 28, 2019 Members Report Posted December 28, 2019 2 other picts of Jerome David awls... Quote time does not respect what is done without it https://tradisign.blogspot.com https://www.instagram.com/tradisign/
Members William Bloke Posted January 2, 2020 Members Report Posted January 2, 2020 Not sure if you mean finest as in thinest, or finest as in best. However, here's an old picture (On the left.) of the awl I use for the fiddly stuff, anything over a no.10 iron really. It is also my favourite kind of sewing awl (with bigger blades) up to about 6 to the inch. It's a John James blade in a small Blanchard handle. I real like the small size, narrow ferrule, flats and bare wood of the Blanchard handles. John James blades are just pretty much standard around here. I'd use these handles for everything, by really big blades won't fit in them. The posh, handmade, polished, fancy wood handles look beautiful, but don't appeal to me. Unvarnished wood is more comfortable and grippy when using it all day. Also, I was taught to push a sticky needle through with the awl handle, rather that reaching for pliers or wax. Saves a lot of time but you wouldn't want to do that with a $20 handle. (Check the needle marks on these awls.) Quote
Members sinpac Posted January 2, 2020 Members Report Posted January 2, 2020 (edited) I just use a Osborne haft and awl. First I sand off all the lacquer or what ever the coating is. Then put two coats of boiled linseed oil on it. Smooth as a baby's bottom. The awl I kiss it off and polish it. Ready to go. Edited January 2, 2020 by sinpac Quote "It ain't about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward." - Rocky Balboa
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