Suppliers from China

[Wizcrafts]

I found this article posted on January 27, 2019, suggesting that the virus won't survive shipping times typical from China. It doesn't address next day shipments though.

[Samalan]

It has ben said hide glue can contain anthrax for more than one hundred years! i dont like any of that stuff i'd say if you dont have to touch stuff from there dont. but thats just me.

[Hardrada]

7 minutes ago, Samalan said:

i'd say if you dont have to touch stuff from there dont.

My same stance. Isn't it usual practice to seal envelopes by licking the flap to make the glue tacky?

How do we know that those who prepared the parcels weren't holding the stuff in their mouths, or picking their noses, or something whilst packing?

[Bob Blea]

The company I work for in my day job has a major manufacturing presence in Shenzhen, China (near Hong Kong) as well as offices in Shanghai and other parts of China, so this was an obvious question for us too.  Our health and safety department dug into this early on and the determination was that the virus should only be able to exist on a surface for two days at most, so there should not be any health risks with handling packages.  Even things that are sent 'overnight' take more than a day to reach us here in the US, but right now I'm not sure how long anything would take.  Even their normal shippers have been shut down or heavily restricted in doing business from our understanding.

[kgg]

Once all this settles down, maybe companies may have too look at not having all their manufacturing / suppliers in one country.

kgg

[AntiqueCollars]

I just wanted to share this new study for those concerned, in rare cases it can live for 9 days but average is 4-5 days. Lysol it or let it sit for a week or two and you'll probably be fine though.

[fredk]

A sort-of update to this.

I recently received some orders from China. One from the mainland and one from Hong Kong. Both suppliers sent me messages about the orders. Both were basically apologies for the delay in fulfilling the orders, due to this virus affecting their workers.

But there was more. The HK dealer explained the delay was caused by his/her workers having to go into quarantine and his/her workplace had to be deep cleaned. Both dealers indicated that there was a delay by China Post allowing items out of the country. China Post was holding overseas items for several days before releasing them. This I read as the packages being 'quarantined' for some days. On one of my items it made a delay of 5 / 6 days over ETA, the other was 3 days over ETA but I noticed it had come by air service not the usual slow-boat

[Hardrada]

On 2/13/2020 at 11:28 PM, AntiqueCollars said:

I just wanted to share this new study for those concerned, in rare cases it can live for 9 days but average is 4-5 days. Lysol it or let it sit for a week or two and you'll probably be fine though.

It actually survives ~28 days on bacteria on surfaces at 4°C.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2863430/

[Tugadude]

8 minutes ago, Hardrada said:

It actually survives ~28 days on bacteria on surfaces at 4°C.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2863430/

Thanks for sharing this!  Part of the problem with outbreaks of viruses is the initial information not being correct.  When this became an issue and we all began talking about it, there was a lot of speculation mixed in with fact.  We now know the virus can survive much longer than it was first thought.

So I think it is prudent to take appropriate cautions.  No need to get stupid about it, like the folks refusing to purchase Corona beer (true story!), but a sensible approach is a good idea.

My oldest daughter is a school teacher and the other day they had at least 70 children and about a dozen staff members out with influenza.  The custodians did a "deep disinfecting" of the entire building during the night.  The chemicals are apparently so strong they cannot do it when the building is occupied.  The fact that they take action like that pleases me.  They take it seriously and take reasonable action.

[chuck123wapati]

18 hours ago, Tugadude said:

Thanks for sharing this!  Part of the problem with outbreaks of viruses is the initial information not being correct.  When this became an issue and we all began talking about it, there was a lot of speculation mixed in with fact.  We now know the virus can survive much longer than it was first thought.

So I think it is prudent to take appropriate cautions.  No need to get stupid about it, like the folks refusing to purchase Corona beer (true story!), but a sensible approach is a good idea.

My oldest daughter is a school teacher and the other day they had at least 70 children and about a dozen staff members out with influenza.  The custodians did a "deep disinfecting" of the entire building during the night.  The chemicals are apparently so strong they cannot do it when the building is occupied.  The fact that they take action like that pleases me.  They take it seriously and take reasonable action.

agenda 21 by 2030 in progress. Virus spurs hysteria kills old people, puts in place global mandated vaccinations per Bill Gates that sterilize 90+%, or go to a fema camp, does away with paper money even though pin pads are just as dirty, creating a global economy. Easy peasy! Lambs to the slaughter.