Members Vikefan Posted January 31, 2020 Members Report Posted January 31, 2020 Hey, Check out the Weaver leather rotary sewing machine I saw a video on today. I wished I'd had this option when I bought my Tipman Boss. https://www.weaverleathersupply.com/catalog/item-detail/63500-01/master-tools-cub-manual/pr_59274/cp_/shop-now/machinery/sewing/machines Vikefan Quote
kgg Posted January 31, 2020 Report Posted January 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Vikefan said: Check out the Weaver leather rotary sewing machine I saw a video on today. I am very impressed and from what I can gather a USA product. It looks like it is begging for a nice slow speed servo. This one seems to be a game changer for people needing a heavy duty machine. I hope this one catches on. kgg Quote Juki DNU - 1541S, Juki DU - 1181N, Singer 29K - 71(1949), Chinese Patcher (Tinkers Delight), Warlock TSC-441, Techsew 2750 Pro, Consew DCS-S4 Skiver
Members Matt S Posted January 31, 2020 Members Report Posted January 31, 2020 8 hours ago, kgg said: I am very impressed and from what I can gather a USA product. It looks like it is begging for a nice slow speed servo. This one seems to be a game changer for people needing a heavy duty machine. I hope this one catches on. kgg They have done very well with that. I almost bought one a few years ago, and not only has Weaver managed to increase the quality of the product but dropped the price. That's economies of scale I guess. Just a shame there's no reverse or grooved flywheel, cos otherwise it could be a decent alternative to the CB3200. Quote
Members Gunnarsson Posted February 1, 2020 Members Report Posted February 1, 2020 The Cub does look interesting, but at the same time it looks a bit rough and unfinished. The thread guides look like they come straight from the hardware store, which is fine, but it gives you the impression that your $1500 machine is built of cheap parts you can get at your local hardware store. A bigger issue I see is the check spring, being long and poking out from the machine. I can easily see something getting tangled on it and destroying it, either when in normal use or especially when being moved. As I said, it looks interesting, but it would benefit from some minor tweaks. Quote
Members Crossman Posted February 1, 2020 Members Report Posted February 1, 2020 Wow ! Am I glad I stumbled onto this thread. Watched the Cub video and it sure looks interesting. Agreed, reverse and a grooved flywheel would be great, but I don't make anything huge so can just turn the piece around to lock stitch, and after buying it, I couldn't afford a servo and speed reducer anyways LOL Thanks for the heads up Vikefan !! 17 hours ago, Vikefan said: Hey, Check out the Weaver leather rotary sewing machine I saw a video on today. I wished I'd had this option when I bought my Tipman Boss. https://www.weaverleathersupply.com/catalog/item-detail/63500-01/master-tools-cub-manual/pr_59274/cp_/shop-now/machinery/sewing/machines Vikefan Quote
Members MoMatt Posted February 1, 2020 Members Report Posted February 1, 2020 I saw the cub and was interested in it, but decided to go with an outlaw and ordered it from Bob Kobar this morning. I think it will be easier to precisely place the Stich with the outlaw. The cub is a couple hundred more than the outlaw and at that price you really have to scratch your head about just getting a 441 machine. It doesn’t look terribly robust for 1600 bucks although the weight is around 50 lbs I think. Quote
Members Crossman Posted February 3, 2020 Members Report Posted February 3, 2020 Question here : Since it doesn't have a grooved flywheel, would a friction motor be a possibility ? (maybe for lighter weight stuff) Quote
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted February 3, 2020 Moderator Report Posted February 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Crossman said: Question here : Since it doesn't have a grooved flywheel, would a friction motor be a possibility ? (maybe for lighter weight stuff) Before anybody tries motorizing a Cub, contact Weaver Leather and talk to their sewing machine gurus. The bearings, crank shafts and other moving parts may or may not be able to withstand speeds above what you can do by hand cranking. The manual oiling system may not be designed to provide proper lubrication at more than a couple stitches per second. If anybody gets official word on how fast one can safely run this machine, please post it here in a reply, quoting Weaver. Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Rodzhobyz Posted February 4, 2020 Report Posted February 4, 2020 On 2/2/2020 at 9:55 PM, Wizcrafts said: may not be able to withstand speeds above what you can do by hand cranking. +1 And spitballing here, but if the belt added would require anything like the tension on my 4500, it would certainly need those heavy duty bearings & mount casting for sufficient anchoring. Quote
Members jhrleather Posted February 7, 2020 Members Report Posted February 7, 2020 Hi all; Looked at the Weaver Cub video today and found it very interesting. Thinking of buying one soon because shoulder holsters take a lot of hand sewing . I like it better than other manual sewing machines I have looked at. As for motorizing it I would first remove the flywheel and install a pulley. Possibly a 10 inch one and a 1 1/2 inch on the servo motor. This should allow you to run it slow enough. If I needed to sew faster for production purposes I would buy something else. Using the proper material for the belt tension should not be a problem. My 2 cents. Open to comments from other members as I am just now considering a machine. Quote
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