Northmount Posted November 19, 2020 Report Posted November 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, MtlBiker said: How much am I taking a chance on this machine? Would I be making a mistake to order one? I would ask about return policy under the current COVID restrictions. You need to be able to try it out. I have a 2700 (from Ron a few years ago) and it works well for me. I don't do lots of sewing, it is sporadic depending on what projects I pick up. Only problems I have were made by me and I was able to sort them out. I've done a little sewing most of my life, so am not really intimidated by sewing machines. I'm also mechanically minded and willing to jump into most things to try out or fix. The main thing with a sewing machine is to be able to adjust tension with changes in the leather thickness and hardness. It can take a half hour or so to get it right. You need 2 or 3 needle sizes, to match your thread sizes and stiffness of your leather. If you are always working with the same material you don't need to keep adjusting tension, etc. and life is a little easier. Quote
MtlBiker Posted November 19, 2020 Author Report Posted November 19, 2020 12 minutes ago, chrisash said: Have you asked Ron if there is anyway you can have a test on one, I assume it would not be to hard to open a factory to show a local person Ron said there was no way he would allow anyone into his showroom or offices, even just one person by appointment. He did offer though that he set up a machine outside (under a canopy) for me to try. But temperatures here are now often below freezing and I can't see testing a machine with cold fingers, plus we've got snow in the forecast. And it wouldn't be possible to compare two machines (2750 and the PRO)... that's asking too much. So either I wait until (and if) Covid ends or I go ahead and order without testing or even seeing a machine in the flesh first. These sure are difficult and trying times. Quote Current machines: Janome HD3000 and Skyline S5, Consew 206RB-5, Singer Profinish serger, Techsew 2750 PRO, Sailrite LSZ-1 Premium, Consew DCS-S4 Skiver
MtlBiker Posted November 19, 2020 Author Report Posted November 19, 2020 23 minutes ago, Northmount said: I would ask about return policy under the current COVID restrictions. You need to be able to try it out. I have a 2700 (from Ron a few years ago) and it works well for me. I don't do lots of sewing, it is sporadic depending on what projects I pick up. Only problems I have were made by me and I was able to sort them out. I've done a little sewing most of my life, so am not really intimidated by sewing machines. I'm also mechanically minded and willing to jump into most things to try out or fix. The main thing with a sewing machine is to be able to adjust tension with changes in the leather thickness and hardness. It can take a half hour or so to get it right. You need 2 or 3 needle sizes, to match your thread sizes and stiffness of your leather. If you are always working with the same material you don't need to keep adjusting tension, etc. and life is a little easier. Good idea! I'll check with Ron to see if there is any return policy. Having one would make me feel a bit hesitant. But I wouldn't go ahead and order a machine even with a return policy unless I was pretty darn certain that was the machine for me. After a lot of trial and error with my RB206-5 I think I'm comfortable with adjusting thread tension. So far I'm using v69 and v92 poly threads only, and I've even got two bobbin cases/holders with each adjusted appropriately. It's funny but I've also been finding that when I change from white to black on the same brand/type of v92 thread, I need to readjust the bobbin thread tension. I didn't expect that and don't quite understand it. But using the hanging by a thread technique, the tension is definitely different between the two colors. Quote Current machines: Janome HD3000 and Skyline S5, Consew 206RB-5, Singer Profinish serger, Techsew 2750 PRO, Sailrite LSZ-1 Premium, Consew DCS-S4 Skiver
Members chrisash Posted November 19, 2020 Members Report Posted November 19, 2020 (edited) Often the darker the thread the less flexible it is, you really notice in in embroidery machines where you change thread colours very often(funny customers never have their designs in basic colours always some obscure colour and you have to buy 12 or more cones on the larger machines and never use them again) Edited November 19, 2020 by chrisash Quote Mi omputer is ot ood at speeling , it's not me
Techsew Ron Posted November 19, 2020 Report Posted November 19, 2020 1 hour ago, MtlBiker said: Good idea! I'll check with Ron to see if there is any return policy. Having one would make me feel a bit hesitant. But I wouldn't go ahead and order a machine even with a return policy unless I was pretty darn certain that was the machine for me. After a lot of trial and error with my RB206-5 I think I'm comfortable with adjusting thread tension. So far I'm using v69 and v92 poly threads only, and I've even got two bobbin cases/holders with each adjusted appropriately. It's funny but I've also been finding that when I change from white to black on the same brand/type of v92 thread, I need to readjust the bobbin thread tension. I didn't expect that and don't quite understand it. But using the hanging by a thread technique, the tension is definitely different between the two colors. Hi @MtlBiker nice chatting with you yesterday. I sent you another PM yesterday evening if you want to take a look, we can set up a machine for you to try next week. Weather shouldn't be too bad Monday! All the best, Ron Quote Techsew Industrial Sewing Machines Call toll-free: 866-415-8223 Visit www.techsew.com
MtlBiker Posted November 19, 2020 Author Report Posted November 19, 2020 Well, I did it! I pulled the plug and ordered a new Techsew 2750 PRO with speed reducer. Now I just have to wait until one can be prepared for me (they're back-logged). Luckily I'll be able to pick it up in my SUV and won't have to wait any extra time for a shipping company. Thank you all for the helpful comments and advice. Think I'll order some v138 poly thread to try on that machine. My RB206-5 is supposedly at the limit with v92 and I'm looking forward to seeing how nice the stitches will look with v138. Quote Current machines: Janome HD3000 and Skyline S5, Consew 206RB-5, Singer Profinish serger, Techsew 2750 PRO, Sailrite LSZ-1 Premium, Consew DCS-S4 Skiver
Northmount Posted November 19, 2020 Report Posted November 19, 2020 3 hours ago, MtlBiker said: Think I'll order some v138 poly thread to try on that machine. My RB206-5 is supposedly at the limit with v92 and I'm looking forward to seeing how nice the stitches will look with v138. I have used 138 in the bobbin and 207 on the top. Looks pretty good. Quote
MtlBiker Posted November 20, 2020 Author Report Posted November 20, 2020 14 hours ago, Northmount said: I have used 138 in the bobbin and 207 on the top. Looks pretty good. Just so I'm clear, you are talking about the 2750 right (and not the RB206-5)? I've been told that the practical upper limit for the RB206-5 is v92 so I haven't tried anything thicker. And I hadn't heard about using a different bobbin thread weight than the top thread (remember, I'm a beginner). What would be the reason to do that? Just the looks of the top thread stitches? Not that I'm going to buy any, but do you think 207 could be used on the top and the bobbin on the Techsew 2750? I'm going to order v138 to try on the new machine. I'm sure it'll be more than adequate for where I am in my sewing career. Heck, even the v92 is probably more than I really need for what I'm doing. Quote Current machines: Janome HD3000 and Skyline S5, Consew 206RB-5, Singer Profinish serger, Techsew 2750 PRO, Sailrite LSZ-1 Premium, Consew DCS-S4 Skiver
DonInReno Posted November 20, 2020 Report Posted November 20, 2020 Your 206 should easily sew with 138 thread. Whom even said 92 is the upper limit either had an improperly adjusted machine or didn’t know what they are talking about. Quote
Northmount Posted November 20, 2020 Report Posted November 20, 2020 4 hours ago, MtlBiker said: Just so I'm clear, you are talking about the 2750 right (and not the RB206-5)? I've been told that the practical upper limit for the RB206-5 is v92 so I haven't tried anything thicker. Yes for my 2700, which from what I see is basically the same as the 2750. Using 207 on the top is for appearance only. For stitch strength, it's no stronger then the weakest thread. Quote
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