Tandy Doodle Pages

[Dan Hammons]

I am two magazines shy of having the first 25 years of the Leather Craftsman and from reading them the Tandy Company then and the one today are not even close to being the same company .They had huge picture carving contests every year with multi divisions and for that era some real nice prizes such as a Al Stolhman carved picture . Craft aids used to come in your Magazine and they would run the flower of the month contest. It appears to me that their goal as a company back then was to get people excited about leather work and keep that intrest alive . If you bought one of thier clock kits or a holster kit from them you got Live Oak Leather wth it . Your free Doodle Page was waiting for you at your favorite store because not only did it get people in their store it also kept their intrest up and they felt like Tandy Leather cared about evey person that walked through the door. These days if someone wants an Ashly Clutch purse and it is a nice purse I tell them that they are really just buying the insides cuz the leather that comes in 80% of them ain't worth putting on a purse that nice. Sad but true and if I want them to come back I have to be honest with them.

These are the oldest or should I say the only Tandy Patterns that I have seen with Dave Tandy copy right

[Mike Craw]

Hey Dan!

You are right about the leather quality. I just posted a purse in "Show Off" that's an Ashley, and I replaced the leather that came in the kit with 4-5 oz. tooling leather. I don't know what has happened, but some of that stuff looks and feels like paper. It must be happening in the tanning process.

Mike

[JustWakinUp]

I'm interested but wouldn't want anyone to get into trouble.

I also think that screaming from the roof tops is a bad idea as

well, sometimes things done in dark alleys aren't a bad idea.

[Rawhide]

MAN!! would I love these. If you find out. Let me know as well.

Marlon

[electrathon]

I say, let's create something new. And if you want old Doodle Pages, buy, sell, or trade to get them.

Bob Stelmack

Editor, RawHide Gazette

www.pslac.org

I have to agree with this. I would like to see an area of the forum that was not for posting comments but was for tutorials. ClayB has done some great ones, and over time they move out of public site. Others here are incredibly tallented too. If there was a section that tutorials were stored, cataloged and were easily downloadable, like in a monthly page format then there would likely be more intrest to write these up. These pages could be free, the information belonging to leatherworker.net for copywrite purposes and we could suggest that if people felt there was helpfull info there then to send in a couple dollars to keep the system running.

Aaron

Go here for all the galleries and tutorials: http://leatherworker.net ~~Johanna

[Cecil]

I would be interested in downloading them. I could even put them in one or more PDF documents and make them available for download online. Folks wouldn't have to download a bunch of individual files. Provided it is legal.

[howardb]

Tandy used to give away Doodle Pages. I have a lot of Doodle Pages, and many are the vintage ones. I see in the email flyers that Tandy is now charging for copies of them. They are also for sale all over eBay. A leather guild once made a cd out of some really old ones a few years ago, and was threatened by Tandy with lawsuits, so the cd project was scrapped. Was Tandy bluffing, hoping to profit from DP sales?

Would anyone be interested in downloading old Doodle Pages if I scanned them?

Is it legal to scan the ones I have and making them available for download? Could I be sued for sharing what Tandy once gave away?

Who owns the Doodle Pages, the authors, or Tandy? Do I need permission from anyone to share something I obtained from Tandy at no charge?

Why is it legal to sell Doodle pages on eBay but not give them away with no expectation of profit?

Am I the only person who thinks it's outrageous that Tandy is trying to make a profit from old Doodle Pages?

I have hard copies of "free" Doodle Pages from the sixties through the nineties. Are there any attorneys in the house?

Johanna

I'm not a lawyer, but I play one on TV... (hahahahaha)

Seriously NOT a shark, but I do have to put up with them sometimes. Copyright law is pretty clear. IF Tandy has copyright on the DP's, then it is indeed agin' the law to copy or distribute (or post) them, even at no fee. You can sell your copy (hence e-bay) completely legally. Now if you are making more copies and selling them, The Man gonna come knockin' and haul your butt away.

[Warning: Opinion to follow!] The SMART thing for Tandy to do would be to scan all of them to PDF's and offer them on CD for sale. Of course an even SMARTER thing for them to do once scanned is allow people to download them individually at N/C. This craft nearly died out and while gaining more support it is STILL "sparsely populated" compared to it's heyday in the 60's & early 70's. Sharing the doodle pages again wouldn't hurt anyone's image.

I LOVE the idea of creating new designs and making them open copyright. That way an author can keep it as his own design, but then it can be freely distributed and shared. As soon as I get that good, I'm willing to pony up designs. I may be freelancing my first project (a holster) and will definitely share if I do.

Regards,

Brent

[Rhonda]

I know this post has not been used in a while, but so you all know. It is not legal for peeps to sell the doodles on ebay.

If you report the seller, there account will be deactivated. I bought a doodle from a guy on ebay, he claimed it was an original. Suprise suprise no Staple holes, usually means it is a illegal copy. About a month later Ebay caught up with him and shut him down.

[whinewine]

I know this post has not been used in a while, but so you all know. It is not legal for peeps to sell the doodles on ebay.

If you report the seller, there account will be deactivated. I bought a doodle from a guy on ebay, he claimed it was an original. Suprise suprise no Staple holes, usually means it is a illegal copy. About a month later Ebay caught up with him and shut him down.

I'm confused : Doodle Pages don't have staple holes (unless someone made them up into a book of sorts). They came on tear-off pads, so I don't I don't know where you're getting the info about staples????

[whinewine]

Also, Doodle Pages did come in loose packs, too, from what I remember from the '60s & '70's, but absolutely none were stapled. (I used to work for Tandy during the mid '70s).

Edited April 8, 2010 by whinewine