Dog collar bling: spots or rivets?

[ButtonLady]

I thought only rivets were used to bling out dog collars (and maybe conchos with Chicago screws).  But... I'm seeing 2-prong rimmed rhinestone and cabochon spots, and metal spots used as well:

 

https://karmacollars.com/collections/designer-bling-custom-handmade-leather-dog-collars

Is one preferred over the other?  Is there a difference in canine comfort or collar functionality?  Bring on the bling! 

Edited March 19, 2021 by ButtonLady
Added link to dog collar website.

[ButtonLady]

And while I'm on the subject...

Do decorative spot and/or rivet patterns or templates exist?  I swear I saw a post about it once, but can't find it now.

[Retswerb]

I would think the two pronged spots would be much more likely to come off, especially if the dog scratches at the collar at all.

[ButtonLady]

1 hour ago, Retswerb said:

I would think the two pronged spots would be much more likely to come off, especially if the dog scratches at the collar at all.

I would think so, too but reviews are uniformly excellent for this company.  Prongs are set well and deep (and very neatly).  Conchos are set with either rivets or Chicago screws.  Judging from the descriptions, they use products from Standard Rivet.

Is a good, solid spot at least equal to a decorative rivet?  I've seen plenty of cheap rhinestone rivets —do they really hold better than a quality spot?  Not being argumentative... I honestly don't know.

Edited March 19, 2021 by ButtonLady
Forgot a word... (duh)

[ButtonLady]

Found a few more collars embellished with spots (via Etsy).  Thinner synthetic "Biothane" collars have 4-prong spots rather than 2-prong:

• Madison and Maude Luxury Handmade Pet Products
• Woofwear Collars (Crystal Chic)
• Luxury Collars by Moxie Collars

No one seems be complaining (?).  Now I'm wondering about horse tack...  Here's a Biothane set with 2-prong rhinestone spots:

https://www.twohorsetack.com/p-29-western-bridle-full-browband-made-from-beta-biothane-with-bling.aspx

Just how common is this?

Edited March 20, 2021 by ButtonLady
Ugh... another stupid mistake...

[ButtonLady]

Embellishment on this collar (for example) has no visible means of attachment:

http://dogmopolitan.com/?product=rn-design-cream-glass-cab-swarovski-crystal-dog-collar-leather-custom

No obvious stitching, either.  Is it common practice to attach spots to an outer collar layer, then glue it to an inner layer?  I can't think of any other way to achieve this look... although clearly I have no idea what I'm doing...

[Northmount]

Moved per request of @ButtonLady

 

[Retswerb]

Yes, if you look closely at some of the pics on that link you can see on the edge of the collar that it’s a thin outer layer attached to a thicker inner layer. Must be glued. 

[Klara]

After messing around with a few decorative rivets (and it is a mess, for lack of a rivet setter, but now I know why one needs it) I think that I just possibly might leave well-set rivets uncovered on the inside, meaning I'd use them on an unpadded collar. Maybe. 

Whereas I hate the idea of prongs that could bend in the wrong direction and poke my dog in the neck. No idea how high the risk really is, but my instincts say not to do it.

As for the templates: I make my own. Get some ideas from looking at internet pictures, take a piece of paper in the shape of my collar, draw the pattern on it till I like it, put the paper on the leather and poke through with a scratch awl where the rivets are to go. For the moment I don't make a more permanent version of the template, because I don't want to do the same pattern over and over.

[Alexis1234]

I use prong spots on collars I've made with a liner because I think it looks nicer. However,  on horse harness they will put spots on parts that aren't lined. The prongs are just bent over  and flattened really well.