PVC pipe leather storage

[fredk]

If you're for using PVC pipes, be careful what you use. PVC can give off or leech chlorides onto and into what you have in contact with it. This is not theory but knowledge thru actual use. Use PVC water pipes meant for carrying water into a house, but do not use the pipes for waste water

[Klara]

2 hours ago, fredk said:

Use PVC water pipes meant for carrying water into a house,

Now I'm happy that I use my surplus gutters for the storage of metal rods and wood... Incidentally, I don't think the pipes used to carry water into the house are big enough for serious storage as you would lose pressure with big pipes. In my house they are about garden hose size. And the mains is not much bigger. (And all of them are full of water -  no air, so Antman's idea from the first movie wouldn't work.)

[jrdunn]

3 hours ago, fredk said:

If you're for using PVC pipes, be careful what you use. PVC can give off or leech chlorides onto and into what you have in contact with it. This is not theory but knowledge thru actual use. Use PVC water pipes meant for carrying water into a house, but do not use the pipes for waste water

Fred, I do know that in the U.S. and Canada PVC is widely used in water and wastewater mains.  That is not to say that we always do things that are good for us.  With some experience in water and wastewater treatment and some training(Some people will brag about anything.), I have never heard this.  Do you have any information what effect these chlorides have on the water or the leather?  Chlorine is often used in the treatment of both, maybe that's why it wasn't mentioned.  I'm not trying to hijack the thread, just wondering what this might cause.

[fredk]

I can't say what affect it has on leather.

But experience is of photos, prints, posters and print-ready artwork being bleached out by the chlorine gassing out of the pipes we stored them in. We used 4 inch diameter waste water pipes to store the above things in a roll. After a few months when we retrieved some items we found them bleached out, progressively from outer to inner.

I took the items to a man I knew who worked as a conservator in the national museum. Without telling him, he pronounced that they'd been bleached by chlorine gas. Then the discussion when into detail. Later I took him a piece of pipe and he was able to have the amount of gas coming off measured. Not enough to worry about, but enough to bleach over time. One of my bro-in-law worked for the N.I. Water Board and he told me that they knew of this and certain PVC pipes were only used for waste water and PVC-free pipes used for taking water to a place

Later, I had to totally changed my photo negs and slides storage system as the PVC storage pages and boxes were gassing off as well. I had to change to 'museum quality' PVC- free storage. 

[jrdunn]

Thanks for the info.  I don't know if ABS drainage pipe might be an alternative for you?  It too is common for residential wastewater pipes in the U.S.  I guess I need to get my leather out of that 8" PVC.  It sure is handy, though.

[Dwight]

I much prefer not having to wrestle with the bends and curves in my leather that it takes on by being wrapped up like that.

My "box" is 8 ft tall . . . 4 ft wide . . . one foot deep . . . and uses a sheet of OSB for the front door.  

Most of my leather hangs vertical in that box off of nail racks that swing in and out . . . pivoted on the left side.

Pull out a piece of leather . . . lay it on the work table . . . it lays flat . . .  no bends, no curves . . . 

I like it like that.

May God bless,

Dwight

[MarlinDave]

Wonder about the black corrugated leach drain plastic pipe? It is cheap, has holes for air flow, comes in 4 and 6 inch. 

[jrdunn]

5 hours ago, 327fed said:

Wonder about the black corrugated leach drain plastic pipe? It is cheap, has holes for air flow, comes in 4 and 6 inch. 

I think most of that is polyethylene.  I don't know the hazards of PE.  Heck, I didn't know the hazards of PVC.

[HandyDave]

13 hours ago, Dwight said:

curves in my leather that it takes on by being wrapped up like that.

I have 2 big tables in my shop one i work off of and the other has became a place for all my heavier veg tan  to lay on. I to hate  workin with the thicker leather while its all curled up. Ive also seen some wall mount ideas online using wooden rods and fabric. Making kind of a cascading curtain which leather is stored in the folds.

[Hags]

I have a 4x8 overhead storage shelf above my bench. It hangs from the ceiling.  I roll them up and put them up there. I think I got it from Costco online.