Members Brooks125 Posted February 28, 2022 Members Report Posted February 28, 2022 I have a customer who wants a re-make of an existing holster for competition. His current holster fits a 1911 with a minimalist holster on a western belt. He wants a holster and belt that fits a CZ Shadow 2. The existing holster is steel lined. He wants to stay away from steel and I know some makers use rawhide as a stiffener. My question, how do you put the rawhide between leather layers and get it to fit well, particularly on the inside radius, against the gun? I've discovered the Barge cement won't adhere to wet rawhide. Is there a way to get the layers to bond, or not really? By the way, this is NOT a detailed boning on the outside of the holster. Kind of a western take on a modern gun. Quote "Be polite. Be professional..."
Members HandyDave Posted March 1, 2022 Members Report Posted March 1, 2022 Can you post pics of holster? Maybe will help with ideas for this crowd if we can see kinda what your shooting for. Is it one of those super cut down comp holsters and does the metal or rawhide create the retention? Quote
Members Brooks125 Posted March 1, 2022 Author Members Report Posted March 1, 2022 (edited) Lets try this. Yes, it is a cut down holster with the stiffness providing the retention. Edited March 1, 2022 by Brooks125 Quote "Be polite. Be professional..."
Members Dwight Posted March 1, 2022 Members Report Posted March 1, 2022 If you soak rawhide real good . . . you can then shape it pretty good. I did that for a knife sheath some time back. After it dried out . . . I glued the rawhide to the suede . . . with the rawhide seam so that the top of the blade was at that seam. The sharp part of the blade found a solid piece of rawhide . . . My customer was super happy with it. He also got the beadwork on the 45-70 rifle case as well. May God bless, Dwight Quote If you can breathe, . . . thank God. If you can read, . . . thank a teacher. If you are reading this in English, . . . thank a veteran. www.dwightsgunleather.com
Members Bert03241 Posted March 2, 2022 Members Report Posted March 2, 2022 why not just use some heavy 9 to 10 oz veg tan wet mold it?. should be very stiff with good retention Quote
Members AzShooter Posted March 2, 2022 Members Report Posted March 2, 2022 Your talking about copying an Ernie HIll rig. He switched to rawhide lined holsters a few years ago and is very successful especially in Cowboy Speed Shooting Events. Once the rawhide is almost dried you should be able to use Barge. Good Luck. Quote
Members Brooks125 Posted March 3, 2022 Author Members Report Posted March 3, 2022 18 hours ago, AzShooter said: Your talking about copying an Ernie HIll rig. He switched to rawhide lined holsters a few years ago and is very successful especially in Cowboy Speed Shooting Events. Once the rawhide is almost dried you should be able to use Barge. Good Luck. This is a Bianchi, which may be a copy of his design. I'll try to play with the drying/Barge timing. Thanks! Quote "Be polite. Be professional..."
Members Bert03241 Posted March 5, 2022 Members Report Posted March 5, 2022 after looking up the Ernie Hill rig I see my suggestion was way off LOL Quote
Members Brooks125 Posted March 7, 2022 Author Members Report Posted March 7, 2022 On 3/2/2022 at 3:16 AM, AzShooter said: Your talking about copying an Ernie HIll rig. He switched to rawhide lined holsters a few years ago and is very successful especially in Cowboy Speed Shooting Events. Once the rawhide is almost dried you should be able to use Barge. Good Luck. However, I used the rawhide on a different project and it looks like, yeah, it leaves a pretty decent window where it's dry enough to accept the Barge and hydrated enough to work with. I'll keep you posted. Quote "Be polite. Be professional..."
CFM chuck123wapati Posted March 7, 2022 CFM Report Posted March 7, 2022 On 2/28/2022 at 9:15 PM, Dwight said: If you soak rawhide real good . . . you can then shape it pretty good. I did that for a knife sheath some time back. After it dried out . . . I glued the rawhide to the suede . . . with the rawhide seam so that the top of the blade was at that seam. The sharp part of the blade found a solid piece of rawhide . . . My customer was super happy with it. He also got the beadwork on the 45-70 rifle case as well. May God bless, Dwight that is good beadwork! Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
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